Tongue of the Sun and Moon

Hullack · Unread post by **Hullack** » Sat Jul 16, 2022 9:34 pm

Tongue of the Sun and Moon (Ex): A monk of 17th level or higher can speak with any living creature.

Monks are supposed to get this ability at level 17. Could this be implemented with the server's language system?

DaloLorn · Unread post by **DaloLorn** » Sun Jul 17, 2022 4:30 am

Speaking every language? Not easily. Could let them cast Tongues as an at-will extraordinary effect, but that'll only give you a handful of racial languages.

Understanding them, as if by a permanent Comprehend Languages effect? Sure.

Hullack · Unread post by **Hullack** » Sun Jul 17, 2022 5:46 am

The latter would work and the reply could just be RP'ed -- or perhaps optimally combined with a targetable feat that temporarily gives you any missing language proficiencies of the target if the system allows?

DaloLorn · Unread post by **DaloLorn** » Sun Jul 17, 2022 7:09 am

I guess? I think the infrastructure for that might exist.

I'm not saying it's something that'll be done, mind you, but it's technologically feasible.

Unread post by **ValerieJean** » Sun Jul 17, 2022 12:43 pm

Is it problematic to just give them all the languages in the List at that level?

Kitunenotsume · Sun Jul 17, 2022 2:08 pm

ValerieJean wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 12:43 pm Is it problematic to just give them all the languages in the List at that level?

Given that there are languages on the list that are secret (And therefore not a requirement to be understood by the creature) , and the monk is not granted any actual knowledge of the language (and thus would have issues with Constructs, Undead, writing, and effects like Magic Mouth) the entire list seems a bit much.

DaloLorn · Unread post by **DaloLorn** » Sun Jul 17, 2022 2:11 pm

Kit raises a valid point, but this is one better discussed with a DM. The one that worries me? There's something like 50 languages on BG. The language menu is going to get... unwieldy, long before we were finished granting all the new languages you'd unlocked.

Also, there's currently no reliable way of removing languages without straight-up wiping your DMFI tool, so we'd have to forbid you from ever deleveling below Monk 17 if you used the XP remover imp.

Unread post by **ValerieJean** » Sun Jul 17, 2022 2:33 pm

Kitunenotsume wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 2:08 pm
ValerieJean wrote: ↑Sun Jul 17, 2022 12:43 pm Is it problematic to just give them all the languages in the List at that level?
Given that there are languages on the list that are secret (And therefore not a requirement to be understood by the creature) , and the monk is not granted any actual knowledge of the language (and thus would have issues with Constructs, Undead, writing, and effects like Magic Mouth) the entire list seems a bit much.

Well minus those which they should be able to be excluded in the coding.

Unread post by **Rhifox** » Sun Jul 17, 2022 4:39 pm

Persistent Comprehend Languages effect would work best for this.

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