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Dark Apostate
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 10:22 pm
by Avanos
I play DDO from time to time - and they recently added this class:
https://ddowiki.com/page/Dark_Apostate
Dark Apostate is a variant cleric archetype that embraces negative energy.
Basically a palemaster variant for cleric.
Thoughts?
On that note - I would also like to suggest that Palemasters be healed via negative energy instead of positive.
Re: Dark Apostate
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 10:35 pm
by sweetlikesplenda
Would they also be harmed by healing spells?
Re: Dark Apostate
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 10:40 pm
by Avanos
Yes!
I think for palemasters (and dark apostate) - there should be 3 class feats that can be chosen as they level up.
Basically stages of undeath. The higher you progress, the less you are healed from positive until it damages you and vice versa for negative.
Re: Dark Apostate
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 10:45 pm
by Avanos
Examples:
Stage 1: Positive spells now harm you for 33% of the base amount, Negative spells heal for 33%
Stage 2: Positive spells now harm you for 66% of the base amount, Negative spells heal for 66%
Stage 3: Positive spells now harm you for 100% of the base amount, Negative spells heal for 100%
There should also be different forms of undead you can take on (Stage 3) - each granting different attributes.
Zombie: +2 Constitution, +1d6 Negative Damage Melee, +Physical DR, and move 10% slower.
Shadow: +2 Wis and Con, + to Concealment, Vulnerability to Light
Wraith: +2 Dex and Int, + to Concealment, DR vs Fall damage, +1d6 Sneak Dice, Vulnerability to Light
Vampire: +2 Cha and Int, +3 perform, + Vampiric on melee attacks, Vulnerability to Light
Lich: +2 int and con, + Negative Healing Amplification, Vulnerability to Positive
Re: Dark Apostate
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2023 10:56 pm
by professiondude
sweetlikesplenda wrote: ↑Wed Jan 25, 2023 10:35 pm
Would they also be harmed by healing spells?
I'm imagining me just spamming healing spells against creature
All around it sounds cool.
Re: Dark Apostate
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2023 3:47 am
by Ghost
The word "apostate" puts me a bit off here, since a cleric actually has to be devout.
Mechanically, i am skeptical of anything sourced from dandwiki.
Thematically, there's no reason why negative energy should heal and positive energy should damage a living creature. And palemaster is living.
I'm sorry, but thus sort of feels like sneaking in undead pcs.
Re: Dark Apostate
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2023 5:00 am
by DaloLorn
DM Ghost wrote: ↑Thu Jan 26, 2023 3:47 amMechanically, i am skeptical of anything sourced from dandwiki.
It's not
even a D&DWiki homebrew. It's a DDO homebrew.
Re: Dark Apostate
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2023 5:09 am
by Ghost
Oh, I misread the URL. Yeah, that's even worse, as DDO functions in entirely different ways than actual D&D.
Re: Dark Apostate
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2023 7:05 pm
by Avanos
Hmm, I thought it was a cool idea