Baldur's Gate : The Sword Coast Chronicles : NWN2 Persistent World

Well, this has just happened to me. I chose the "Return to your previous location" option, the Inn in this case. And got this chat message. Not sure if it's of any importance, but I'll just leave it here.

Edit: The character in question isn't faithless, he has a deity selected, Celestial Bureaucracy. That text about being faithless just seems to have taken place of the name of the location the character was returning to if I get it right.

it's another nerf to annoy players...

Characters who serve a heresy, dead god, archdevil, demon prince, or who are Faithless can no longer self-rez by default, and they cannot be resurrected with the Raise Dead or Resurrection spells by default. They can still be brought back with Stabilize, Bloodstaunch, Revivify, or Recall Spirit, up to the maximum of 5 minutes (Stabilize/Bloodstaunch) or 10 minutes (Revivify/Recall Spirit) after death. Heretics with the Heretic of the Fallen Feat, dead god worshipers with the Servant of the Fallen Feat, archdevil worshipers with the Disciple of Darkness feat, and demon prince worshipers with the Thrall to Demon feat can self-rez and be resurrected normally. Faithless characters can never self-rez or be raised if dead longer than 10 minutes. This only affects heretics/dead god worshipers/archfiend worshipers/Faithless characters, characters who follow all other gods continue to play normally aside from the new time limits on different abilities detailed above.

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its not a "nerf", its a specific mechanic that relates to the setting of this roleplay server we play in

If one does not wish to play with the IC consequences of choosing to be faithless, you can easily pick a god (or even No Patron), there's a deity changer in the nexus.

This isnt forced on people, you can choose something else.

renshouj wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 2:05 pm its not a "nerf", its a specific mechanic that relates to the setting of this roleplay server we play in

If one does not wish to play with the IC consequences of choosing to be faithless, you can easily pick a god (or even No Patron), there's a deity changer in the nexus.

This isnt forced on people, you can choose something else.

Sadly that isn't possible without another annoying RCR. (And we had had more than enough forced RCRs in the last years due to changes.)

A better solution would have been - to offer these feats for free - instead of hurting many existing builds.
And if someone wants to RP being non-resurrectable - these few players could play without them.

Theodore01 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 2:26 pm Sadly that isn't possible without another annoying RCR. (And we had had more than enough forced RCRs in the last years due to changes.)

A better solution would have been - to offer these feats for free - instead of hurting many existing builds.
And if someone wants to RP being non-resurrectable - these few players could play without them.

For this specific instance, he's faithless, he can change his deity in the nexus, theres no RCR required.
For anyone that doesnt have a divine class, they can easily change it in the nexus, no RCR required.

Sorry if the post made it look vague. The character in question isn't faithless in any way, he has a deity selected. The point is that the message looks really out of place and seems to have taken place of the name of the location I was returning to if I get it right.

Whether Chauntea and Lathander can let someone back into the world from the Nexus should have nothing to do with them being faithless or not. That should be a Cyric/fugue conversation, right?

DM Mimic wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 2:48 pm Whether Chauntea and Lathander can let someone back into the world from the Nexus should have nothing to do with them being faithless or not. That should be a Cyric/fugue conversation, right?

I think they may warn the character, but otherwise they dont impede them.



For this situation, if Bodhi is your character and indeed you're not faithless... It is strange that it gave you that message.

We use global token system to pass some changing data into conversations, that's the way game developers made it. Tokens are always the same, so, if some dev uses token number 10000 to give you <name> stuff for something and some other dev uses same token number to send you from nexus AND token don't get updated before being used, it can show some gibberish.
So, say, we have a script that sets token 10000 to "The Faithless" because some Dev uses it for Cyric dialogue. So, someone talked to Cyric, global token now has "The Faithless" in it. Then, you talk to Mielikki, but, for some reason, script didn't update token 10000 which is used for this dialogue too, so you got wrong prompt.
It's a logical breakdown of situation and why it could happen, not a real evidence on exactly this scenario happened as i didn't look into our codebase.

It seems that for some reason, your last location name on that token got overriden with that spooky text. It doesn't mean you are Faithless and that any consequences await, it's just a quirk in coding system. Not sure whether it's because of our coding or because of game engine misbehaving on that token (it's known for sorts of misbehavior, but it's first time i see it messing with tokens).

Thanks for the explanation. Yeah, I thought so too, basically some text lines getting mixed up for some reason. Just thought I'd post it in case it matters.