Give Stormlord 10/10 spell progression as in PnP 3.5

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Give Stormlord 10/10 spell progression as in PnP 3.5

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https://dndtools.net/classes/stormlord/

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Spells per Day/Spells Known: At each stormlord level, the character gains new spells per day (and spells known, if applicable) as if he had also gained a level in a divine spellcasting class to which he belonged before adding the prestige class level. He does not, however, gain any other benefit a character of that class would have gained (improved chance of turning or destroying undead, additional favored enemies, and so on). If the character had more than one divine spellcasting class before becoming a stormlord, the player must decide to which class to add each stormlord level for the purpose of determining spells per day and spells known.

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A good start, but this PrC would still be mediocre. It's a cool RP class like Darkflame, Master Spy and Deathsinger, but the things those classes aim to achieve are done better by other classes already.
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Louvaine wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 10:31 pm A good start, but this PrC would still be mediocre. It's a cool RP class like Darkflame, Master Spy and Deathsinger, but the things those classes aim to achieve are done better by other classes already.
I agree, it is mediocre…but small steps, right?!?

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The extra spell progression would make it loosely comparable to a Silverstar in both costs and benefits, and Silverstar's totally better than another 10 Cleric levels. :P

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DaloLorn wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 4:33 am The extra spell progression would make it loosely comparable to a Silverstar in both costs and benefits, and Silverstar's totally better than another 10 Cleric levels. :P

I'll raise it internally.
Anything is better than Cleric levels! :o

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and how about granting its weapon buff permanently, as clicking it every 20 turns becomes repetitive quickly.
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Theodore01 wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 5:02 am and how about granting its weapon buff permanently, as clicking it every 20 turns becomes repetitive quickly.
Yeah, maybe making it 1 min per Stormlord level? Or at least on par with AK/WoD weapon buff.

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DaloLorn wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 4:33 am The extra spell progression would make it loosely comparable to a Silverstar in both costs and benefits, and Silverstar's totally better than another 10 Cleric levels. :P

I'll raise it internally.
Has the internal machine geared this yet…or maybe ground this yet?!?

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Any Staffside discussion on this request?

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I'm curious about this too now .
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I've bumped the thread again internally. We ran into a few hiccups the last time this was discussed, so never got a clear verdict.
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I have an idea...JUST SAY YES!!!!! <:D

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Re: Give Stormlord 10/10 spell progression as in PnP 3.5

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If you take a look at the PRC besides the spell progression, there are several other differences to what it is in PnP. Therefore, if the argument is that we should change the class to be like it is in 3.5 with its spell progression, we should also look at the other features.

That means some of the features may need a nerf to compensate.

Stormlord is currently actually very good, if a bit inflexible.
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Ghost wrote: Mon Oct 23, 2023 3:56 am If you take a look at the PRC besides the spell progression, there are several other differences to what it is in PnP. Therefore, if the argument is that we should change the class to be like it is in 3.5 with its spell progression, we should also look at the other features.

That means some of the features may need a nerf to compensate.

Stormlord is currently actually very good, if a bit inflexible.
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Ghost wrote: Mon Oct 23, 2023 3:56 am If you take a look at the PRC besides the spell progression, there are several other differences to what it is in PnP. Therefore, if the argument is that we should change the class to be like it is in 3.5 with its spell progression, we should also look at the other features.

That means some of the features may need a nerf to compensate.

Stormlord is currently actually very good, if a bit inflexible.
Yes, give my PC the ability to fly.

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