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Practiced spellcaster bug
Posted: Sat May 20, 2023 5:22 pm
by Dolorof
Hello!
I've noticed yesterday that practiced spellcaster is not working for my epic spell (Mass Fowl), all my other spells gained the expected 1 DC by taking this feat, giving me my factual caster level, based on my class spread, but Mass Fowl did not get the expected 1DC from the epic caster level increase. So i think its safe to assume that the practiced spellcaster feat was the bug, but i could be wrong....
thanks!
Re: Practiced spellcaster bug
Posted: Sat May 20, 2023 9:20 pm
by izzul
Dolorof wrote: ↑Sat May 20, 2023 5:22 pm
Hello!
I've noticed yesterday that practiced spellcaster is not working for my epic spell (Mass Fowl), all my other spells gained the expected 1 DC by taking this feat, giving me my factual caster level, based on my class spread, but Mass Fowl did not get the expected 1DC from the epic caster level increase. So i think its safe to assume that the practiced spellcaster feat was the bug, but i could be wrong....
thanks!
They did a slight change before, Mass Fowl is Transmutation school so its connected with spell focus/greater spell focus/epic spell focus Transmutation to benefit from it.
so only specialized mage with full focus +INT modifier will gain the most benefit and the highest DC.
Re: Practiced spellcaster bug
Posted: Sat May 20, 2023 11:33 pm
by Dolorof
izzul wrote: ↑Sat May 20, 2023 9:20 pm
Dolorof wrote: ↑Sat May 20, 2023 5:22 pm
Hello!
I've noticed yesterday that practiced spellcaster is not working for my epic spell (Mass Fowl), all my other spells gained the expected 1 DC by taking this feat, giving me my factual caster level, based on my class spread, but Mass Fowl did not get the expected 1DC from the epic caster level increase. So i think its safe to assume that the practiced spellcaster feat was the bug, but i could be wrong....
thanks!
They did a slight change before, Mass Fowl is Transmutation school so its connected with spell focus/greater spell focus/epic spell focus Transmutation to benefit from it.
so only specialized mage with full focus +INT modifier will gain the most benefit and the highest DC.
I don't understand, it no longer get a bonus DC from epic spell lvls?
Re: Practiced spellcaster bug
Posted: Sun May 21, 2023 12:24 am
by Kitunenotsume
Dolorof wrote: ↑Sat May 20, 2023 11:33 pm
I don't understand, it no longer get a bonus DC from epic spell lvls?
Correct: Here is the source of the change:
viewtopic.php?p=937026#p937026
[quote]* Epic spells now work closer to pnp implementation. Firstly, epic spells now use standard spell calculation to determine their DCs. For this purpose, they are treated as if they were level 10 spells. [/quote] (emphasis mine)
On second read, I may have misinterpreted the question. However, I am not seeing any indication that the Epic Spells ever received a DC bonus from epic levels. I will continue investigating
Re: Practiced spellcaster bug
Posted: Sun May 21, 2023 1:53 am
by Dolorof
I think its clear that it just follows regular spell rules now.
I don't know. Also there is the possibility that its a bug related to something else, the reason i think its the feat, its because i just leveled, taking this feat as my choice. I noticed all the other spells received the expected bonus from epic caster lvls, but not this particular epic spell....
Re: Practiced spellcaster bug
Posted: Thu May 25, 2023 4:28 pm
by Dolorof
As a quick update
I got another increase in DC by taking a non caster class, the DC of the mass fowl did not increase again. My desintegrate(along with others 6th lvl transmutations) is now at DC 33 while Mass Fowl sits at 35, correct should be 37.
Re: Practiced spellcaster bug
Posted: Wed May 31, 2023 2:25 am
by Dolorof
This is odd but i now have another epic spell, it seems like its DC is also wrong. It is even lower than mass fowl, which makes no sense, since they are of the same spell school. The spell in question is Greater Ruin, which reminds me of an old post i made a few months back, where there was some issues with my epic spells DCs, i will link it here. Hopefully it will help solving the issue.
viewtopic.php?f=407&t=77643&p=944320#p944320
Re: Practiced spellcaster bug
Posted: Wed May 31, 2023 2:54 am
by Rhifox
Fixed for next update. These were still using their pre-epic-spell-changes DCs.
Re: Practiced spellcaster bug
Posted: Wed May 31, 2023 3:09 am
by Dolorof
