Baldur's Gate : The Sword Coast Chronicles : NWN2 Persistent World

Minor annoyance, but it seems every time you relog (or, presumably, crash or transition servers) any armor that you optimized becomes un-optimized. Any way to fix that?

So my FS AC looked off, so I unequipped everything. With nothing on her ac is 16 (base 10 + 30 acrobatics + Luck of Heroes + 13 dex + Armor Skin x 1). She has greater armor optimization and an Entropium Full Plate that has +1 dex on it. Equipping the plate raises her AC to 25 (raises her dex bonus from 1 to 2 and 8 armor. It should raise it to 27 with greater armor opt.

Edit: Bought a normal full plate from Mielikki in the Nexus, same result. Greater armor opt should make it 10/1 to raise my ac from 16 to 26, it only raises it by 8 to 24 as if I did not have any armor opt feats.

from the change notes:

Armor Optimization is no longer a passive ability. Instead, you use the feat on an item in your inventory in order to optimize or unoptimize it. While optimized, an armor is unable to be dropped or traded.

renshouj wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 12:15 am from the change notes:

Armor Optimization is no longer a passive ability. Instead, you use the feat on an item in your inventory in order to optimize or unoptimize it. While optimized, an armor is unable to be dropped or traded.

OH! I didn't see anything new in the Server Updates thread, where did you find that? Discord?

Topic updated

renshouj wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 12:15 am from the change notes:

Armor Optimization is no longer a passive ability. Instead, you use the feat on an item in your inventory in order to optimize or unoptimize it. While optimized, an armor is unable to be dropped or traded.

WTF


please make it passive again
and please always put such important info on the wiki/feat description and inform the player base about such changes.

Theodore01 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 3:56 am

renshouj wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 12:15 am from the change notes:

Armor Optimization is no longer a passive ability. Instead, you use the feat on an item in your inventory in order to optimize or unoptimize it. While optimized, an armor is unable to be dropped or traded.

WTF


please make it passive again

It was changed because a player lost their item due to the passive optimization system. It's part of efforts to fix the issue with armors showing up as 0 AC 0 ACP after equipping them (which unfortunately still seems to be happening).

The login issue is probably related to the on_acquire script which is trying to prevent trading of optimized items. It's likely the on_acquire script is firing on relog. This might also be the cause of the 0 AC 0 ACP thing. Hm.

and please always put such important info on the wiki/feat description and inform the player base about such changes.

The changes are in the patch notes, which are available in-game, they just haven't been posted on the forum yet.

Rhifox wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 4:59 amIt does persist over logins. Once an item is optimized it remains optimized until you unoptimize it.

Per the edited OP, this does not appear to be the case. I think Kana has Armor Optimization, so I can try it out with her when I get off work.

DaloLorn wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 5:02 am

Rhifox wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 4:59 amIt does persist over logins. Once an item is optimized it remains optimized until you unoptimize it.

Per the edited OP, this does not appear to be the case. I think Kana has Armor Optimization, so I can try it out with her when I get off work.

I already edited my post when I investigated further. Issue has been found and a fix is committed.

Issue is that on_acquire gets fired when you relog, since apparently it counts as 'newly acquiring' items when you load your inventory even if you've already had them.

Rhifox wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 5:15 am

DaloLorn wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 5:02 am

Rhifox wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 4:59 amIt does persist over logins. Once an item is optimized it remains optimized until you unoptimize it.

Per the edited OP, this does not appear to be the case. I think Kana has Armor Optimization, so I can try it out with her when I get off work.

I already edited my post when I investigated further. Issue has been found and a fix is committed.

Issue is that on_acquire gets fired when you relog, since apparently it counts as 'newly acquiring' items when you load your inventory even if you've already had them.

Yeah, I ran into that when I wiped out people's teleport runes. You need to check whether the PC is in a valid area - I defined a "bIsLogin" variable in our onAcquire handler to identify new logins, so you only want to do your thing when "!bIsLogin" (i.e. "bIsLogin == FALSE").

my point is: If suddenly one has to active a feat that always worked without before, that's something that needs to be documented!

The issue with it resetting on logins should be fixed now.

And the patch notes are up.

Not sure if this is still bugged but i have two characters both with this feat and neither are getting the benefit. This is befoe and after using the feat.