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Racial gods unavailable for certain race/class combinations

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2023 7:58 pm
by Izsu
I've been wanting to make another druid character and found myself locked off from options that should be available.

Deep gnomes, for example, cannot pick Baervan Wildwander at all and they can only pick Segojan Earthcaller as a deity if they're neutral good.

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As a drow I was unable to pick Lolth as a deity for my druid. Granted, I don't know all too much about reasons in-universe as to why there might be a druid in worship of Lolth. My immediate thoughts and hopes fell towards some deeper leanings into the, you know, spider aspects of it all.

As a grey orc shaman I was also unable to pick any orcish deity, which feels absurd considering how common shaman enemies are amongst orc tribes seen on the server.

Could it be possible to request a bit of a redo at least in terms of allowed alignments on certain gods? In the deep gnome examples at the very least, I feel like it should be a bit more open for choice.

Re: Racial gods unavailable for certain race/class combinations

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2023 7:59 pm
by DM Glittergold
A dire bug against the glorious gnomes!

Re: Racial gods unavailable for certain race/class combinations

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2023 8:21 pm
by renshouj
Izsu wrote: Sat Oct 28, 2023 7:58 pm As a drow I was unable to pick Lolth as a deity for my druid. Granted, I don't know all too much about reasons in-universe as to why there might be a druid in worship of Lolth. My immediate thoughts and hopes fell towards some deeper leanings into the, you know, spider aspects of it all.
Lolth doesn't sponsor druids
Izsu wrote: Sat Oct 28, 2023 7:58 pm As a grey orc shaman I was also unable to pick any orcish deity, which feels absurd considering how common shaman enemies are amongst orc tribes seen on the server.
orcish pantheon doesn't have nature deities. Also orcish shamans are not spirit shamans/druids.


Unsure about Baervan though



Edit: Overall, druids are a very strict class, almost as - if not more - strict as paladin. It is not supposed to be very flexible. So while you may feel the choices are a bit too strict, I'd go so far as to say they're not strict enough (say, we allowing druids of furies).
Also, there is a game limitation that spirit shamans and druids have the same god list because they share the same spellbook, and that isn't something that can really be changed.

Re: Racial gods unavailable for certain race/class combinations

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2023 8:44 pm
by Izsu
In the case of alignment of said nature deities though, should they not be made more accurately to the editions we're "supposed" to be in? Segojan is clearly marked as more than Neutral Good.

Re: Racial gods unavailable for certain race/class combinations

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2023 9:10 pm
by renshouj
Izsu wrote: Sat Oct 28, 2023 8:44 pm In the case of alignment of said nature deities though, should they not be made more accurately to the editions we're "supposed" to be in? Segojan is clearly marked as more than Neutral Good.
if you mean "worshipper alignments", that does not include divine classes. Instead, look to "clergy alignments". In segojan's case, those are:


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Since druids have to be neutral in one of the axis, that just leaves NG. It is accurate to the edition.

Re: Racial gods unavailable for certain race/class combinations

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2023 11:34 pm
by Izsu
Well, damn. This falls into one of those cases where I'll have to admit being in the wrong.

Re: Racial gods unavailable for certain race/class combinations

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2023 12:22 am
by Dolorof
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There is something wrong with the deep gnome's deity selection though. As a Svirf of any alignment i am not allowed to select most of the gnomish pantheon. As far as i can remember there should be no reason for that. I can't for exemple....Praise Garl ;/

I believe the bug may be somewhere in the conflict with the deities allowed for divine classes of the deep gnome race? I have no idea, just a suggestion.