New PrC Sublime Chord

[Flights of Fantasy]

Note: DaloLorn already said he would not be interested in doing this PrC unless another project that allows custom spell lists in NWN2 is completed. I'm just posting this here because I like this class and hope it might someday get added. The link DaloLorn shared on Discord can be found here. I made adjustments to skills based on what the server has available while using the Bard class as a reference. One odd thing about the PrC is how it implies progression can be selected for multiple arcane casting classes despite it seeming to require bard spells. I presume it's meant to be like Stormsinger in this way.

Sublime Chord

In return for abandoning her continuing study of bardic music, a sublime chord instead masters a number of spells more powerful than most bards can ever use.



Requirements

Skills: Knowledge (Arcana) 13, Listen 13, Perform 10, Profession (Other - Astrology) 6, Spellcraft 6.

Spellcasting: Able to cast arcane spells of 3rd level.

Special: Bardic music ability.

Class Features
Hit die: 6
Proficiencies: none
Skill points: 4 + Int modifier
Class skills: Concentration, Craft (all), Decipher Script, Diplomacy, Linguistics, Lore (all), Perform, Profession (all), Search, Spellcraft, Spot.
Base attack bonus progression: Low
Saving throws
high: Will
low: Fortitude, Reflex

Spellcasting

A sublime chord has the ability to cast a small number of arcane spells, all of 4th level or higher. To cast a sublime chord spell, a character must have a Charisma score of at least 10 + the spell's level, so if she has a Charisma of 13 or lower, she cannot cast any sublime chord spells. Bonus spells are based on Charisma, and saving throws against these spells have a DC of 10 + spell level + the sublime chord's Cha modifier. A sublime chord can choose spells from the sorcerer/wizard spell list or the bard spell list; if a spell appears on both lists at different levels, she uses the bard version of the spell. As with bard spells, the somatic components for a sublime chords spells do not incur an arcane spell failure chance as normal for arcane spells if the sublime chord is wearing light armor.

A sublime chord's caster level for both her sublime chord spells and the spells she gains from other arcane spellcasting classes is determined by adding her sublime chord level to her level in another arcane spellcasting class. If she had more than one arcane spellcasting class before becoming a sublime chord, she must choose to which class to add her sublime chord levels for the purpose of determining her sublime chord spellcaster level. A sublime chord prepares and casts spells just as a sorcerer does, including the ability to replace a known sublime chord spell with a new spell at every even-numbered class level beginning at 4th.

Class Abilities & Spell progression

Level	BAB	Fort	Ref	Will	Features Gained	SK 4th	SK 5th	SK 5th	SK 7th	SK 8th	SK 9th		SpD 4th	SpD 5th	SpD 5th	SpD 7th	SpD 8th	SpD 9th
1	+0	+0	+0	+2	Bardic Lore, Bardic Music	3	1	-	-	-	-		2	1	-	-	-	-
2	+1	+0	+0	+3	Song of Arcane Power	4	2	-	-	-	-		2	2	-	-	-	-
3	+1	+1	+1	+3	-	4	2	1	-	-	-		3	2	1	-	-	-
4	+2	+1	+1	+4	-	4	3	2	-	-	-		3	3	2	-	-	-
5	+2	+1	+1	+4	-	4	3	2	1	-	-		3	3	2	1	-	-
6	+3	+2	+2	+5	Song of Timelessness	4	4	3	2	-	-		4	3	3	2	-	-
7	+3	+2	+2	+5	-	4	4	3	2	1	-		4	4	3	2	1	-
8	+4	+2	+2	+6	-	4	4	4	3	2	-		4	4	3	3	2	-
9	+4	+3	+3	+6	-	4	4	4	3	2	1		4	4	4	3	2	1
10	+5	+3	+3	+7	Song of Cosmic Fire	4	4	4	4	3	2		5	4	4	3	3	2

Bardic Knowledge
A sublime chord continues to collect the odd bits of lore and knowledge that bards acquire. She can add her sublime chord class level to her bardic knowledge checks, so her bardic knowledge checks have a bonus equal to her bard level + her sublime chord level + her Int modifier.

Bardic Music
A sublime chord expands her repertoire of bardic music to encompass new songs or poetics of strange and wondrous power. These effects function just as the bardic music effects described in the Player's Handbook. Each use of a sublime chord song expends one daily use of the character's bardic music ability. A sublime chord adds one-half her class level (rounded down) to her bard level to determine her number of daily uses of bardic music.

Song of Arcane Power (Su)
A sublime chord of 2nd level or higher with 12 or more ranks in a Perform skill learns how to use her bardic music to assist her spellcasting. As a move action, she can prepare to cast a spell by giving voice to the song of power. The next spell she casts gains a bonus to its caster level based on the result of the sublime chord's Perform check:

Perform Check Result	Caster Level Increase
9 or lower	+0
10 to 19	+1
20 to 29	+2
30 or higher	+4

The spell to be enhanced by the song of arcane power must be cast by the end of the sublime chord's next turn, or else the song fades with no effect (other than consuming a bardic music use).

Song of Timelessness (Su)
A sublime chord of 6th level or higher with 16 or more ranks in a Perform skill knows the song of timelessness. As a standard action, she can envelop a single creature within 60 feet in a field of timelessness, provided she has line of effect to the target. The subject is entitled to a Will save (DC 10 + sublime chord level + Cha modifier) to negate the effect. If the subject fails its save, it is frozen in a shimmering aura of timelessness and can take no actions. However, no force can affect it, weapons cannot reach it, spells that target it automatically fail, and if the ground it is standing on is somehow taken away, it would not even begin to fall. A sublime chord can keep her target frozen in time for as long as she maintains the power by continuing to perform, up to a maximum of 1 minute per level. When she stops performing, the subject immediately returns to normal. As far as the creature is concerned, no time seems to have passed.

Song of Cosmic Fire (Su)
A 10th-level sublime chord with 20 or more ranks in a Perform skill learns the song of cosmic fire. Using this ability costs a sublime chord two of her daily uses of bardic music. The song of cosmic fire creates a 20-foot-radius spread of fire anywhere within 100 feet of the sublime chord (provided she has line of effect to the fire's point of origin). Creatures in the area take damage equal to the sublime Chord's Perform check result. All affected creatures are entitled to a Reflex save (DC 10 + sublime chord level + Cha modifier) for half damage.

[Lockonnow]

Hello Daimondheart are you make this prc for i have some to if some one really cool I wondering if this could be made for Warlock to https://www.realmshelps.net/charbuild/c ... ster.shtml
I stil wish we could have Mage of the Arcane Order and Silver Pyromancer and Exalted Arcanist and Netherese Arcanist from dndtools.net

[Flights of Fantasy]

You misunderstand. This is only a suggestion. I am not a member of the BG staff.

[DaloLorn]

Point of order: Black Iron Ark was the one who shared the PRC. I just said it wasn't feasible.

As for Lock's stuff:

• Eldritch Master is an arcane PRC, not a warlock PRC. Still can't be done, though, because its core class features are various spellbook modifications.
• Mage of the Arcane Order: Can't be done, core class features are either hard to represent in a PW or otherwise modify the spellbook.
• Silver Pyromancer: Can't be done. Not even sure it's an FR-compatible class, but again, spellbook modification is a no-go.
• Exalted Arcanist: Can't be done. Centers around metamagics not available on BG, plus modifies the spellbook.
• Netherese Arcanist: Can't be done. At the risk of repeating myself... centers around spellcasting functionality not available in NWN2. (Level 13 spellcasting is a prerequisite, and half of its benefits revolve around making it easier to develop epic spells! Plus with the feat requirements, you'd need to spend 5 epic feats - none of which exist on BG - to qualify for the PRC.)

[Deragnost]

Because I'm playing a bard, I would definetely consider this PrC to make it part of Rose arsenal but I can see how hard it would be to implement a 9th circle spell for Bards in the normal spell list.

Maybe the issue could be worked around by adding a feat, like it's done for assassin and blackguard... perhaps having the player choose between a selection of premade feats with combinations of 7th/8th/9th circle spell?

EG: 7th circle feat has 3 or 4 premade feats with the combination of four spells each feat and the player decides which they like the most. Same for 8th and 9th.

Would be very very fun to have, but I understand if it would be difficult to implement.

Edit 1: Song of Timelessness sounds like a mixture of Hold Monster and Sanctuary, while the Cosmic Fire sounds like a Greater Fireburst spell.

Edit 2: Song of Arcane Power, I think we already have something similar already for divine casters. Divine Spellpower I believe.

[Flights of Fantasy]

I made the same suggestion in Discord, but DaloLorn would rather not do it that way

[Deragnost]

(Just brainstorming here)

Well, if one doesn't want to give access to 7th/8th/9th level spells to the bards, you don't have to, but something else must be given in return. What about extra epic feats after level 20? Maybe giving Epic Inspiration toward the end of the progression, or even granting one or two epic spells (aside requiem) that normally wouldn't be achievable by bards.
Like, say, geater ruin and hellball and maybe pick one only. It would make sense by how the PrC is.

[Flights of Fantasy]

I'd rather find a way to gain access to the levels 7 through 9 spells. Being a bard-sorcerer hybrid is what defines the class.

[Lockonnow]

thanks DaloLorn for point it out so my 1000 years old brain can understand it

[Deragnost]

I'd rather find a way to gain access to the levels 7 through 9 spells. Being a bard-sorcerer hybrid is what defines the class.

I mean, you can already do it!
From what I read, it doesn't progress the inspirations and whatnot, but it gives extra songs to the bard. That would mean that if you did:

7 bard / 8 sorcerer / 10 stormsinger (sorcerer progression) / 5 AnyPrCThatAdvancesBard , you'd get the same result, with 9th circle spells, and even more spells than just bard alone. Probably you'll miss Requiem, but you'll get epic spells.

[Flights of Fantasy]

That's a lot of caster levels lost even with practiced spell caster. Stormsinger also doesn't give any song progression unless you advance bard spells. It also locks a character into being a stormsinger and you wouldn't be able to progress to get some of the useful bard spells like the more powerful healing spells.

[Deragnost]

Then I don't know.

[edmaster]

Its Possible to add level 7,8,9 spells to Bard and make it a Thing, We did it on Haven a while ago(Though the Class was never released for Balance reasons)

[DaloLorn]

Good bit harder to do it conditionally upon a PRC, though, and doubly so when that PRC is supposed to grant access to the higher end of the arcane spellbook on top of the bardic spellbook. Unless you're talking about faking spell learning with feats, as described in this thread already? (That was the solution I vetoed before the thread was opened.)

[Deragnost]

Its Possible to add level 7,8,9 spells to Bard and make it a Thing, We did it on Haven a while ago(Though the Class was never released for Balance reasons)

Kinda curious now, too. How's it been done?