Baldur's Gate : The Sword Coast Chronicles : NWN2 Persistent World

As per the BGTSCC wiki:

[Augment Form] been added to the feat list of Archmage, Hierophant and many other PrCs.

https://wiki.bgtscc.net/index.php?title=Polymorphing

However, at least on the BGTSCC JEGs, that is not the case, and it is not available for choosing in the High Arcana feat list.

I would be interested in this as well. Since taking Archmage recently, this would definitely have been a High Arcana my character would have taken if it were an option, while this is not mentioned on the high arcana list on wiki but is on the polymorphing page that seems to have been updated somewhat recently with form stats at least, is this planned/intended or was this an old idea that was refuted in the end?

It's been on the wiki as long as I can remember.

Yes, but actually my request to have Augment Form as a High Arcana and Hierophant option was made waaaaay back in the Valefort days, the wiki was updated, but unfortunately the Server code was not.

Adding this to my todo, though admittingly a low priority at the moment given timing to EE release.

I see outsourcing to junior devs is as hard now as it was in my day...

Aspect of Sorrow wrote: ↑Wed Jun 25, 2025 3:28 pm Adding this to my todo, though admittingly a low priority at the moment given timing to EE release.

Thanks AoS!!

There's no outsourcing problem, this is one of the things I want to personally review.

Personally review? Another round of decision-making, I take it; even limited to raw 2DA edits, it shouldn't take more than 5-10 minutes to attach the feat to the appropriate lists, if you were going along with Vale's original plan...

It'll be interesting to see what comes out of it!

Steve wrote: ↑Sun Jun 15, 2025 7:26 am As per the BGTSCC wiki:

[Augment Form] been added to the feat list of Archmage, Hierophant and many other PrCs.

https://wiki.bgtscc.net/index.php?title=Polymorphing

However, at least on the BGTSCC JEGs, that is not the case, and it is not available for choosing in the High Arcana feat list.

Augment Form is available as a spellcasting feat for the class with the feat requirement of Spell Focus Transmutation. I don't see any literature intended for it to be in the High Arcana listing nor does it appear to align with SRD at a cursory glance. Historic discussions were reviewed for this suggestion, currently will remain as is. Wiki language updated regarding Augment Form to better clarify that it is not part of the High Arcana line.

Ok, at least that's clear then. Thanks for looking into it!

DaloLorn wrote: ↑Fri Jun 27, 2025 3:12 am Personally review? Another round of decision-making, I take it; even limited to raw 2DA edits, it shouldn't take more than 5-10 minutes to attach the feat to the appropriate lists, if you were going along with Vale's original plan...

It'll be interesting to see what comes out of it!

Technical implementation is just a minute or two. Policy and intent takes longer.

Aspect of Sorrow wrote: ↑Fri Jun 27, 2025 8:28 am

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Steve wrote: ↑Sun Jun 15, 2025 7:26 am As per the BGTSCC wiki:

[Augment Form] been added to the feat list of Archmage, Hierophant and many other PrCs.

https://wiki.bgtscc.net/index.php?title=Polymorphing

However, at least on the BGTSCC JEGs, that is not the case, and it is not available for choosing in the High Arcana feat list.

Augment Form is available as a spellcasting feat for the class with the feat requirement of Spell Focus Transmutation. I don't see any literature intended for it to be in the High Arcana listing nor does it appear to align with SRD at a cursory glance. Historic discussions were reviewed for this suggestion, currently will remain as is. Wiki language updated regarding Augment Form to better clarify that it is not part of the High Arcana line.

Thank you for taking the time to address this, AoS. Obviously, I do not like the outcome!

I assume here that Augment Form is ONLY available to "Archmage, Hierophant, and a number of other PrCs..." on any normal Level up Feat selection, when meeting the requirement. Does that mean it is also available for Wizards on their special Level up Feats (lvls 5/10/15/etc)??

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Aspect of Sorrow wrote: ↑Fri Jun 27, 2025 8:28 am

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Steve wrote: ↑Sun Jun 15, 2025 7:26 am As per the BGTSCC wiki:



https://wiki.bgtscc.net/index.php?title=Polymorphing

However, at least on the BGTSCC JEGs, that is not the case, and it is not available for choosing in the High Arcana feat list.

Augment Form is available as a spellcasting feat for the class with the feat requirement of Spell Focus Transmutation. I don't see any literature intended for it to be in the High Arcana listing nor does it appear to align with SRD at a cursory glance. Historic discussions were reviewed for this suggestion, currently will remain as is. Wiki language updated regarding Augment Form to better clarify that it is not part of the High Arcana line.

Thank you for taking the time to address this, AoS. Obviously, I do not like the outcome!

I assume here that Augment Form is ONLY available to "Archmage, Hierophant, and a number of other PrCs..." on any normal Level up Feat selection, when meeting the requirement. Does that mean it is also available for Wizards on their special Level up Feats (lvls 5/10/15/etc)??

It's available to the base class, yep.