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Change mage staves item type
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2025 9:20 am
by Deathgrowl
Currently all the mage staves purchasable in shops (like at the Sorcerous Sundries or High Hedge) are set to quarterstaff. This means for a halfling or a gnome, you have to actually have monkey grip to even equip them. That's a bit silly, especially when they are technically meant to be magic staves, rather than quarter staves.
With that in mind, I suggest changing the item type of all of these to Magic Staff, so they are accessible to all mages.
I doubt any mages are actually using these as physical weapons anyways, so any change in physical damage by dice or strength modifier doesn't really matter.
Re: Change mage staves item type
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2025 4:50 pm
by Lockonnow
but that will change to be short staff couse that is Magic Staff and others staff like quarterstaff. is for monk staff to so it will be a mess if all need to change i know short staff is magic staff and you can use 2 magic staff with out the feat monkey grip so you Gnome just have to find a short staff ,a the long sword and a long bow the halfling
Re: Change mage staves item type
Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2025 4:55 pm
by Lockonnow
i know there is a place only for gnome sould we just add a spell that can alow in any race in to this gnome village couse there is a spell that can Reduce Person but it will not work couse it is only for gnome that is alow in this village .
Re: Change mage staves item type
Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2025 5:11 pm
by Deathgrowl
Bump. Devs?
Re: Change mage staves item type
Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2025 7:42 pm
by Aspect of Sorrow
Reviewing.
Re: Change mage staves item type
Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2025 9:13 pm
by Aspect of Sorrow
Newly acquired staves : Cast spell and bonus spell slot staves base property types changed to magic staves rather than quarterstaves next update. The remainder of quarterstaves remain after reviewing that most of their properties are martial in nature, the monkey grip requisite for small stature (racial AC/size boon synergies) should remain.
Re: Change mage staves item type
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2025 3:12 am
by Lockonnow
I find it lack of Knowledge of Lore of Forgotten Realms and DnD how tall is a gnome and a Halfling there is a Reasen a human wizard /sorcerer need to have a staff went their get weak their bodie is not the same as a warrior it can be hard to stand up and walk but a small Gnome dont need that we know that for a fact from Draagonlance a Young man in a Weak Bodie Raistlin Majere. I stil hold on that you need a the feat Monking Grep for quarterstaff all staff you can buy just you can get a feat you dont have to use a feat monkey Grip white a min will that say that my 2 chars that use2 staff dont need monkey Grip anymore ?
Re: Change mage staves item type
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2025 8:44 am
by Aspect of Sorrow
Lockonnow wrote: ↑Mon Sep 08, 2025 3:12 am
I find it lack of Knowledge of Lore of Forgotten Realms and DnD how tall is a gnome and a Halfling there is a Reasen a human wizard /sorcerer need to have a staff went their get weak their bodie is not the same as a warrior it can be hard to stand up and walk but a small Gnome dont need that we know that for a fact from Draagonlance a Young man in a Weak Bodie Raistlin Majere. I stil hold on that you need a the feat Monking Grep for quarterstaff all staff you can buy just you can get a feat you dont have to use a feat monkey Grip white a min will that say that my 2 chars that use2 staff dont need monkey Grip anymore ?
The change does not apply to staves with martial combat properties. If a staff has a property of physical damage or deflection AC, it was exempted from the change and monkey grip will be required. Magic staves don't typically maintain the same durability of a quarterstaff to be able to perform the same.
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> A typical staff is 4 feet to 7 feet long and 2 inches to 3 inches thick, weighing about 5 pounds
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> Dire flails, dwarven urgroshes, gnome hooked hammers, orc double axes, quarterstaffs, and two-bladed swords are double weapons. A character can fight with both ends of a double weapon as if fighting with two weapons, but he or she incurs all the normal attack penalties associated with two-weapon combat, just as though the character were wielding a one-handed weapon and a light weapon.
The character can also choose to use a double weapon two handed, attacking with only one end of it. A creature wielding a double weapon in one hand can’t use it as a double weapon—only one end of the weapon can be used in any given round.
Re: Change mage staves item type
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2025 10:30 am
by Lockonnow
my staffs can cast spells then what it is this staff you can see it here
https://www.gamebanshee.com/cgi-bin/sea ... ms.id=1475
Re: Change mage staves item type
Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2025 11:16 am
by Gnomocratic
It would be nice to have a way to change existing quarterstaff mage staves to magic staves, as a mostly gnome only player, I can't tell you the amount of times I included monkey grip to my builds on mages just to be able to have the staff aesthetic, hell, that's why I added magic staves in the first place lol
Nexus one time convertor npc?
Re: Change mage staves item type
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2025 12:10 pm
by Deathgrowl
Any news on this? I see only one staff has been changed thus far ingame (staff of frost). I hope more staves become available to gnomes and halflings!
Re: Change mage staves item type
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2025 1:13 am
by Aspect of Sorrow
Their templates were modified but we'll be modifying stores on mass scales to refresh against their template modifications than having to individually replace the items each time.
Re: Change mage staves item type
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2025 7:02 am
by Antras89
maybe add or change first shop in gulkyrn village? with this new type of staffs for halfings/gnomes
Re: Change mage staves item type
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2025 4:51 pm
by Deathgrowl
It's been a moment, so I'm going to nag a bit and ask if this change will happen soon?