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Racial Language

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Are we getting default racial language again?

Right now ,Tieflings, half elves, and I believe elves, do not get their race language.

Just curious. Thanks.
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Nor do Aasimar but they do get a bonus language in place of celestial.
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My hin and elf got their racial and class languages just fine after character creation or after first relogging. Also the correct additional language slots based on INT modifier.
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My Imaskari got hers.
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Tieflings do not seem to get abyssal and class language counted towards total language limit.
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Tanarukks are not getting Orc or Abyssal for free. In fact, they don't start with any languages, not even Undercommon.
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joleda wrote:Tanarukks are not getting Orc or Abyssal for free. In fact, they don't start with any languages, not even Undercommon.
http://bgtscc.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=49753

It's already been addressed and we are waiting an update or something.
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also half orc's don't get orc...:( which means Aasimar's most likely don't get Celestial :(
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Uther3867 wrote:also half orc's don't get orc...:( which means Aasimar's most likely don't get Celestial :(
Should half-orcs get Orc? From a gameplay perspective it seems fair, however it may not make sense from a lore perspective.
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Calantyr wrote:
Uther3867 wrote:also half orc's don't get orc...:( which means Aasimar's most likely don't get Celestial :(
Should half-orcs get Orc? From a gameplay perspective it seems fair, however it may not make sense from a lore perspective.
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Monster Manual I, page 204. Automatic langauges: Common, Orc.
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Monster Manual I, page 209. Automatic Languages: Common, Celestial.
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I Myself Have a tiefling with 16 INT. I should have Common Abyss and +3 languages. When I log in I have Common Elven, and 2 more languages to pick. for a total of 4, when I should have 5.
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tankteddy wrote:I Myself Have a tiefling with 16 INT. I should have Common Abyss and +3 languages. When I log in I have Common Elven, and 2 more languages to pick. for a total of 4, when I should have 5.
When you RCR a tiefling you don't get ANY languages (no Abyssal, and you won't even get Cant, if you're a Rogue), and if you have bonus languages from classes, they count toward language limit (meaning if you have Cant, and +3 int modifier, language window will only let you pick two more languages). This is a bug.

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My RWoT got SIX copies of arcane language. Who can trump that?
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NegInfinity wrote:
tankteddy wrote:I Myself Have a tiefling with 16 INT. I should have Common Abyss and +3 languages. When I log in I have Common Elven, and 2 more languages to pick. for a total of 4, when I should have 5.
When you RCR a tiefling you don't get ANY languages (no Abyssal, and you won't even get Cant, if you're a Rogue), and if you have bonus languages from classes, they count toward language limit (meaning if you have Cant, and +3 int modifier, language window will only let you pick two more languages). This is a bug.

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No, this isn't right.

I know this because I have 3 class languages on one character. If you have that problem, relogging does help.

The issue is, if you weren't human, you got a bonus racial language. This isn't happening now. I just want to know if this is intended or a work in progress.

I get that everyone is working hard, I truly do. But some kind of response along the lines of "yes, non human races should have their racial language as a bonus" or "No, we are going a different path for racial bonus languages."

It is something so far down the list of priorities, I understand. It's leaving a language in limbo right now because of the uncertainty.
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Re: Racial Language

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Hawke wrote:
NegInfinity wrote:
tankteddy wrote:I Myself Have a tiefling with 16 INT. I should have Common Abyss and +3 languages. When I log in I have Common Elven, and 2 more languages to pick. for a total of 4, when I should have 5.
When you RCR a tiefling you don't get ANY languages (no Abyssal, and you won't even get Cant, if you're a Rogue), and if you have bonus languages from classes, they count toward language limit (meaning if you have Cant, and +3 int modifier, language window will only let you pick two more languages). This is a bug.

Ask DM for assistance.
No, this isn't right.

I know this because I have 3 class languages on one character. If you have that problem, relogging does help.

The issue is, if you weren't human, you got a bonus racial language. This isn't happening now. I just want to know if this is intended or a work in progress.

I get that everyone is working hard, I truly do. But some kind of response along the lines of "yes, non human races should have their racial language as a bonus" or "No, we are going a different path for racial bonus languages."

It is something so far down the list of priorities, I understand. It's leaving a language in limbo right now because of the uncertainty.
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I think there was a misunderstanding.

A tiefling is SUPPOSED to get racial language, and they USED to get it before the update. They no longer get those. Which is a bug. Also, Cant definitely counts towards language limit now, which is ALSO a bug.

The only way to fix that is to bother DMs. They can grant you languages and you'll get your abyssal.
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