Wizz/sorc Drow in the UD possible?

[lohho]

Good day.
I started a drow sorc not long ago.
As we all know they got a +2 lvl adjustment.
Iam lvl 3 now and its nearly not possible to do any valuable things alone. You have to choose betwen being one hited and get about 10 xp per kill.
Will this change at any level or is drow caster a thing of impossibility and only doable with freinds which level you?
Ty for the answers.

[Psyike]

I think it'll depend a lot on your spell choices. A lvl 3 sorc -could- have mage armor, shield, and protection from alignment--that's +10 AC. If you take mirror image as your first level 2 spell, it should be difficult for anything to hit you. Of course, with this setup, it would also be difficult for you to do any damage--but you certainly shouldn't be getting 1-shot killed.

That said, it certainly wouldn't hurt to find a group to level with. I see players leveling fairly often. It's easier for all involved and more entertaining. And if you're having trouble finding a group, you can try the Looking For Group (LFG) option with your scry tool or just bum around town looking for some random RP instead of leveling. I find players in the Glora's Tavern fairly often as well as the area where you can sell beetle shells.

[lohho]

Maybe you miss one little problem: UD is dead, there is never anybody to play with. Sometimes 1 or 2 ++ players which dont even wanna talk with you.
Iam lvl 3 now, i took 2 of 3 spells you reccoment and i still die on beeteles which give me 7xp - and 2 deaths cost 600xp.
Thats great. Thats the fun i want if i play.

Sorry on this server you cant play any caster drow if you dont got your personal nanny which level you to some usefull levels or you got millions of gold to buy you 1million summon and or polymorph scrolls.

And no playing a half drow just to avoid the +2 LA is NOT a opinion because i dont want to be a halfslave in the rp.

[mar3usmc]

I think I may have one of the few Level 30 Drow wizards on the server (Wiz/PM/ASoC). The keys to leveling up a wizard in the UD are Scrolls, Patience, and a bit of luck. Also running the quests down there religiously.

Keep in mind that Amon was my first PC here (well technically second but I deleted the first). So I didn't have any means of boosting his leveling with "help" from an older PC. I must have killed 1000s of beetles with him. Fireburst and Ghostly Visage are your friends. Group up about 8 to 10 beetles, hit Ghostly Visage, and let them surround you. 1 fireburst later and perhaps a little cleaning with a wand of frost or other weak spell and you have 200 to 250 in gold worth of pincers. For a scroll worth what, 60ish gold??? that is profit.

Not saying you are not capable, but playing a wizard in the UD, solo, requires you to think. You need to know the monsters weaknesses. A nice way of testing or gauging a monsters strengths is to go invisible and use some summons. Another technique is to get some create undead ability and buff them up. Greater Planar Binding is a nice one for consistency too.

I can go on and on about how to level up a Drow to 20 in the UD, but part of the fun is figuring it out on your own and coming up with your own methods. I admit after 20, I would not* waste your time "hunting" monsters (I always said I was experimenting on them ). Your best bet is just to be patient and just run the quests when they become available and try to find RP the rest of the time.

With school in full swing and vacation time all over the server population has dropped significantly over the past 2 months, the UD being hit especially hard as some of the bedrock players there have moved on to other servers as well. I am sure once the summer comes along it will pick up again and perhaps by then we will have more added to the UD. I am thinking that another city far to the north may be in order.

[TheVoid]

if your wizard thinks like a fighter you will fail...

If your wizards thinks like a wizard he will win...

Consumables (scrolls, potions, wands, etc) are your friend. As well as any starting gear that boosts HP. Transitions are also your friend run to them before you get swarmed and spanked by a mob you can't control.

[Rainbow Prism]

Hey, have not I met you once with my PC? If I did, sorry about running out. Had to do some urgent things IRL. At least I hope you did the quest with scroll I left.

Anyway... It is possible to play wizard or sorcerer, but I refused to play the PC I started cause I felt that my choice as caster is very very very small. I started to hate so called gishes and did not want to go that way. At least only because they do not really look for me as true gish in its original meaning. Playing sorcerer or wizard is VERY possible. It depends on the basic stats you choose, so do not expect to get super strong with stats like 8 8 18 8 8 18. Plan ahead. And, of course, be in reasonable standards with RP and lore.

I wish to see at least one UD 30 lv wiz (no PrC). *sigh* Perhaps some day.

Anyway, you have chosen sorcerer which is overpowered on server in comparison to the wizard at starting lvs. Get yourself good choice to survive and go get em. And if you go gish, do not go through lame *take off armor-cast-take on armor* thing. I think it is... you know.

[mar3usmc]

Anyway, you have chosen sorcerer which is overpowered on server in comparison to the wizard at starting lvs. Get yourself good choice to survive and go get em. And if you go gish, do not go through lame *take off armor-cast-take on armor* thing. I think it is... you know.

Huh? Ummm not in my experience. I found that my wizard starting out was MUCH MUCH easier than both of the sorcerers I have created, by far. Perhaps that is a personal experience though and not a general rule. Wizards, IMO are in general better in most builds because you can focus on just two stats, Dex and Int, and a bit in Con. Others are for the most part throw aways. Where as for a Sorcerer, if you with to have ANY sort of skill points you need about 14 to 16, perhaps more, in Int. 19+ just to cast up to level 9 spells. Dex to for AC unless you are going Armored Gish route, Con for HPs, and a tiny bit of Str to carry the crap ton of scrolls, potions, and wands you will depend on. Wisdom, as always for arcane casters, is the throw away stat.

But were talking pure casters here right, no melee dependence? Then yea, Wizard still does better by far.

[Nachti]

dont play at the UD at all.

if you want to continue getting xp at the level 18+ you have to go the surface, which is a pain, expectionally for a low hp caster. getting a group for that is hard.

immo no epic area in UD = epic fail on long time playing.

[Side]

dont play at the UD at all.

if you want to continue getting xp at the level 18+ you have to go the surface, which is a pain, expectionally for a low hp caster. getting a group for that is hard.

immo no epic area in UD = epic fail on long time playing.

We don't need that I want to grind propaganda, it's all about RP. I'll be returning to the UD for good soon enough, so I'll try and run into you to keep things from getting too boring while you get past this low level issue.

[Rainbow Prism]

Don't play in UD? That sounds like someone has given up already.

[Side]

Find him and take him to Que'llar Sshamath, we can fix him

[Psyike]

Maybe you miss one little problem: UD is dead, there is never anybody to play with.

Must be a timezone thing then, cause I often see lots of people leveling. Just the other day my fiance found a group of 7 to level with near the umberhulks.

I don't know what level you're at, but if you ever see Ryltar or Sabrae on, feel free to send us a tell (we're at 7/8, respectfully). Truthfully, we rarely grind, but you might catch us doing the quests

[Rainbow Prism]

If you are alone in UD, no one will hear your scream...

Anyway, that means you are either on wrong server or you got in the worst GMT moment. Somehow I meet crazy grinders there at 50% rate. Anyway, good luck.

[Larvus]

how many truths in this discussion ...
first is the staff of baldur's gate is focused on the surface, that's why ppl play surface, but is a vicious circle cuz ppl leave ud (and server maybe) cuz ud is underdeveloped, other truths maybe some ppl believe that their rp is the only possible rp and doesnt help others, or maybe complain that english (my english for example) in not good, or cuz a drow or a deep gnome follow an unusual deity for these races .... i want to remeber there is no rule for any race to be force to follow their racial phanteon, and there is a thing, called fantasy, that let u to create any background story to justify any choose u did for ur toon.
btw, exping a wiz/sorc (drow or not) in ud in enough hard (but not only a spellcaster type) and require many patience and game knowledge (and yes, good stuffs could help).

i can only hope staff and area developers could be do something more for the ud, and hope more ppl whit patience come to play ud whit me.
i almost alone most of the time in ud, but i dont need to play surface to continue to play here (maybe im crazy).

btw, any ppl want to create a new ud toon, or any ud toon can tell me a pm
to any Jas-Larvus toon in ud to play whitout not so many rp problems, i mostly play in server 2

[rieitdd]

I like the idea

if youre ever in server 2 and want some RP, most of my characters are happy to help

the account name is Rieitdd2