Items to be removed! please read!!!!

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Kelsfar
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As of this time all items with any sort of immunity effect (exception to the Palemaster item that is only for Pale masters with the broken feat) are to be removed. Once again I say that all items that carry a immunity property are going to be removed. Examples of these items are rings ,swords, helmets, armor etc... that have any various form of immunity on them like immunity to poison, fear, Fire, Sleep etc...
Now for a two week limited time we will reinburse those that come forward with these items with a decent amount of gold to swap for it
or a lesser version or version without the immunity. Please contact your local DM or me via in game or forum PM's to have your immunity item credited. After one week these items will be auto pulled from inventories and Gold or equvilant item trade will no longer be available, meaning no refund.
Immunity Items have now been found to be over powering for this servers low to mid magic setting. Thanks for the cooperation folks and sorry if this inconvients anyone! Take care
-Kelsfar-


Such items so far to be handed over with Full immunity on them are as such. The list will be more complete very soon.


Golden Circlet
Encircling Scale
Cloak of Movement
Broewende Family Armor
Belt of Guiding Light
Staff of Command
Purple Dragon Ring
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Nice. A decent amount of gold to purchase what? The store items?

ON EDIT: Seriously, if you are going to go back and erase this much time and effort, why not just do a vault wipe, and set everyone back to square one? It makes about as much sense. Allowing grandfathered casters with persist feat, but remove items long held as rewards for RP, etc. Sorry, definitely not thrilled with this.
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Just rebuild as a cleric and be immune to everything. :lol:
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Edit: I don't agree with Broham2. Wipe everyone! Clear the vaults and give back XP! Boo to immunities and persistent spell.
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I think it's a good decision. Takes balls to do things in the name of balance that will upset long-standing players and deprive them of their toys, but immunity items really aren't a good idea in any but the highest of magic settings. IMO.

You make a good point about casters with persistent spell, though. They should really have been given free remakes of their characters at the time. However, their failure to do that doesn't somehow make this current decision a bad one.
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Egg Shen wrote:I think it's a good decision. Takes balls to do things in the name of balance that will upset long-standing players and deprive them of their toys, but immunity items really aren't a good idea in any but the highest of magic settings. IMO.
It's not only about immunity-items. Also other things seem to be "taken back".

Even though i will hand over any asked item, i have to say that i m on brohams side with this. Why taking away rewards which were earned via persistent RP in great events over the last months?
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Egg Shen wrote: You make a good point about casters with persistent spell, though. They should really have been given free remakes of their characters at the time. However, their failure to do that doesn't somehow make this current decision a bad one.
Its an extremely valid point though. After making a decree like this, you can't go halfway. You would have to make sure every character adheres to the current rules since grandfathering is no longer permitted.
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@ Ri762,

what other things are you referring to? His post seems to indicate pretty clearly they are just cleaning up the situation with immunity items slipping into the mod.
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I know of one instance back in the day where some tried to auto-remove immunity items from people's inventories when they logged in. It went horribly wrong so I hope you are very careful.

I agree that immunity items are bad but I would also be in favour of a vault wipe instead. Old characters have forbidden feats, old stormlords are more powerful etc etc.

It would be better set everybody back to square one so that all can play on equal terms.

If a 'standard' wipe isn't desireable, it would be possible to set up a PC in the nexus that will allow you to stash some XP and gold (by cd-key) so that you, in effect, could bank your characters, maybe up to a maximum limit of 20 levels worth of XP.
That wold allow people to remake their main character post-wipe.

Hands down, the server is in Beta so it is "legal" to do a wipe.
Addictive as this game is, I doubt that people will leave because of a wipe.
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Ri762
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@Egg Shen
An item which i recieved after an event latley. I know the post from Kelsfar is only regarding immunitygranting gear but i recieved a pm to hand over something which doesnt grant any immunity, but still is a highlevel item.
*sighs and prepares the "package"*

edit: and stop this nonsense about wiping the vault, i think broham was a bit sarcastic there
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I'm in favor of a complete wipe too. It would be fair for everyone and it would help out roleplaying wise too, if you think about it.
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The majority of items with immunities on this server were likely gained by looting chests and getting them when some of those particular items slipped into the loot script somehow.

They should never have been on the server. In my opinion, they should have been removed long ago as well. :mrgreen:
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the cloak of freedom that give "freedom of movement" consider and imunity item ?
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Yes please post a list of all items that are on the "To be removed list"

I for one plan to collect a bit of coin My going rate per item is 50k for each :P
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I just turned in one belt with Freedom of Movement (does anyone wonder why Flail was so hard to take out? Even if anyone beat his saves he still had the belt *snickers*).

One of my PC's has an immunity to fear belt that will be turned in later even though I don't play that character anymore.
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