keep an eye on the server update thread to see what area and what level range goes in and post feedback here
Underdark General Discussion Thread
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Re: Underdark General Discussion Thread
there are new low level areas and adjustments to current areas being made for the UD to help ease the pain
keep an eye on the server update thread to see what area and what level range goes in and post feedback here
keep an eye on the server update thread to see what area and what level range goes in and post feedback here
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Eldebryn
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Re: Underdark General Discussion Thread
Also Alchemyst, I can see how your "only 1% of partying is about RP" experience has come to by, that's only natural when you party with a other newbies.
If you try to spend time with more experienced UD players you will see that many of us take the Lore pretty seriously and RP to the best of our potential. Sshamath is an alternative, cosmopolitan drow city with very interesting lore.
UD itself is, even among the surface players, considered a place of better and higher quality RP than the surface, it's the levelling that prevents those players from playing here and yes, there are efforts to try and fix that issue, mainly with new areas and modification of the present ones, some of these efforts are already seen in the update log
.
That being said, yes, the first 2-3 levels are a living hell and epic leveling is pretty hard (on the bright side it encourages RPing because the RP exp are better than grinding
) but if you tolerate these and quite some solo play, I feel that you will be rewarded in the end.
The 7th Circle has been an effort to organize UD players and possibly counter those issues, however you people need to take initiative as well.
Everyone can RP being a member of the Circle, since there are no requirements and even recruit other members. Many people don't use the forums, or don't do so really often and we need to enable those too in a team effort to improve the playing conditions down there and bring action to the place.
Giving up on the UD because of it's drawbacks, even though one likes it, is not a good thing for it's future. People were complaining about lack of builder attention but look what we have now: we finally we got new areas down there and if we go on to demonstrate how we care about UD I believe it will improve even further.
If you try to spend time with more experienced UD players you will see that many of us take the Lore pretty seriously and RP to the best of our potential. Sshamath is an alternative, cosmopolitan drow city with very interesting lore.
UD itself is, even among the surface players, considered a place of better and higher quality RP than the surface, it's the levelling that prevents those players from playing here and yes, there are efforts to try and fix that issue, mainly with new areas and modification of the present ones, some of these efforts are already seen in the update log
That being said, yes, the first 2-3 levels are a living hell and epic leveling is pretty hard (on the bright side it encourages RPing because the RP exp are better than grinding
The 7th Circle has been an effort to organize UD players and possibly counter those issues, however you people need to take initiative as well.
Everyone can RP being a member of the Circle, since there are no requirements and even recruit other members. Many people don't use the forums, or don't do so really often and we need to enable those too in a team effort to improve the playing conditions down there and bring action to the place.
Giving up on the UD because of it's drawbacks, even though one likes it, is not a good thing for it's future. People were complaining about lack of builder attention but look what we have now: we finally we got new areas down there and if we go on to demonstrate how we care about UD I believe it will improve even further.
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Gruk
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Re: Underdark General Discussion Thread
and through the 7 th circle you'll be able to access help , buffs , RP and even the surface , if you have somthing to do there .
Its not easy to RP reasons for an epic mage to help for example a level 3 deep gnome theif ... or to help an earth genasi and an imaskari reach the surface to trade . Through the 7th circle Rp'ing such assistance would go a lost easier and more plausible.
the leaders are NPCs so thats good , with a simple shout like '' the Runner sends words to gather '' a DM could round up evryone without having to tipy toe around about how such a party would come to help each others.
Also with the new tool char bio accesible IG i'd suggest Elde you consider recruiting on the spot people you meet and are interested , ask them to add '' 7th circle insigna'' and there ya go, you're in . there's your badge. because only a fraction of UD pop. comes on forum lets be honest. Redirecting them to it will just en up in failed recruits half the time.
Its not easy to RP reasons for an epic mage to help for example a level 3 deep gnome theif ... or to help an earth genasi and an imaskari reach the surface to trade . Through the 7th circle Rp'ing such assistance would go a lost easier and more plausible.
the leaders are NPCs so thats good , with a simple shout like '' the Runner sends words to gather '' a DM could round up evryone without having to tipy toe around about how such a party would come to help each others.
Also with the new tool char bio accesible IG i'd suggest Elde you consider recruiting on the spot people you meet and are interested , ask them to add '' 7th circle insigna'' and there ya go, you're in . there's your badge. because only a fraction of UD pop. comes on forum lets be honest. Redirecting them to it will just en up in failed recruits half the time.
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Re: Underdark General Discussion Thread
Gruk, that's actually a damn brilliant idea! Recruiting on site with request for adding emblem on description would be great as I've had an issue with people not using the forums for a while now.
Thanks a lot.
Thanks a lot.
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Eldebryn Rilynghym Let the past crumble to dust. I have the Art... I, Magus...
Mage of Sshamath and teacher of the Art
Gaerdred Dawnfire Paladin of Torm, born and raised in Baldur's Gate
//Founder of The 7th Circle [Private forums]
Eldebryn Rilynghym Let the past crumble to dust. I have the Art... I, Magus...
Mage of Sshamath and teacher of the Art
Gaerdred Dawnfire Paladin of Torm, born and raised in Baldur's Gate
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Re: Underdark General Discussion Thread
Hey now! :p I'm part of that fraction that comes on the forum.
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Re: Underdark General Discussion Thread
i'd jut like to underline the awsomeness of the Illithid hive , it is spectacular and very dificult for a spell caster , or a low will warrior im told. In any case it is not what i was expecting when there were rumors of this map coming out , its by far much more.
great job.
great job.
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Re: Underdark General Discussion Thread
Yeah...Gruk wrote:... or a low will warrior im told.
Still great area! The items need a little work but the area is really well done, once I stop getting stunned it will be one of my favorite places in the UD.
Passiflora wrote: AS A DROW you will kill DUERGARS for like..... lvl 9 to 25. A DAMN LOT OF DUERGARS.
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Re: Underdark General Discussion Thread
What?! xD I seen high lvl warriors get ate for breakfast at the hive. :p Couple dispels does make it hard though. Even the tanks need some buffs. :p
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Ryltar - Escaped convict, murderer.
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Re: Underdark General Discussion Thread
Yes, you need a Magic Circle against Alignment, or possibly an extended Mind Blank, cast by a decently powerful wizard (say...Valshar
), and if they manage to dispel those you need backup, or they'll eat you alive
. I love the place, to be honest, a great job. I am also a bit sad the items arent more useful, but hell...it's just equipment
.
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Re: Underdark General Discussion Thread
Aelcar wrote:Yes, you need a Magic Circle against Alignment, or possibly an extended Mind Blank, cast by a decently powerful wizard (say...Valshar), and if they manage to dispel those you need backup, or they'll eat you alive
. I love the place, to be honest, a great job. I am also a bit sad the items arent more useful, but hell...it's just equipment
.
"Plak'la mean nothing... Completely useless. It's item important." - Pyro.
^^^^^^^^^^
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Lanthalosa Drekk - Warlock
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Ryltar - Escaped convict, murderer.
Konravian Drekk - Assassin/Pirate Drow, of Bregan D'aerthe.
Lanthalosa Drekk - Warlock
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Re: Underdark General Discussion Thread
Aelcar wrote:Yes, you need a Magic Circle against Alignment, or possibly an extended Mind Blank, cast by a decently powerful wizard (say...Valshar), and if they manage to dispel those you need backup, or they'll eat you alive
. I love the place, to be honest, a great job. I am also a bit sad the items arent more useful, but hell...it's just equipment
.
do they have truesight or anything similar?
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Re: Underdark General Discussion Thread
LOL Paragon
. I can totally picture him saying that...
I have been there once only, and now the area is off limits for RP purposes, so I wouldnt know about True Sight...why?
I have been there once only, and now the area is off limits for RP purposes, so I wouldnt know about True Sight...why?
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Re: Underdark General Discussion Thread
if they dont warlocks have a fair chance down there.. especially CHA based with repelling blast with increased DC featAelcar wrote:LOL Paragon. I can totally picture him saying that...
I have been there once only, and now the area is off limits for RP purposes, so I wouldnt know about True Sight...why?
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Re: Underdark General Discussion Thread
Oh no man...Warlocks own everything in the UD, and everything above apart from the White. It's not like they have a fair chance...they just blow up the placedzidek1983 wrote:if they dont warlocks have a fair chance down there.. especially CHA based with repelling blast with increased DC featAelcar wrote:LOL Paragon. I can totally picture him saying that...
I have been there once only, and now the area is off limits for RP purposes, so I wouldnt know about True Sight...why?
Aelcar Lightbringer, Knight of the Merciful Sword: Disappeared after the victorious defense of the Gate against The Blight.
Olath M'elzar Valshar The Black, The Phantom Wizard: Retired Steward of the School of Necromancy and former Eye of the 7th Circle.
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Re: Underdark General Discussion Thread
Aelcar wrote:Oh no man...Warlocks own everything in the UD, and everything above apart from the White. It's not like they have a fair chance...they just blow up the placedzidek1983 wrote:if they dont warlocks have a fair chance down there.. especially CHA based with repelling blast with increased DC featAelcar wrote:LOL Paragon. I can totally picture him saying that...
I have been there once only, and now the area is off limits for RP purposes, so I wouldnt know about True Sight...why?. It's been done already
. True Sight, or not!
I'm with Aelcar on this one diz. My warlock can pwn anything in UD and "Walk" to the surface.
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Konravian Drekk - Assassin/Pirate Drow, of Bregan D'aerthe.
Lanthalosa Drekk - Warlock
Vadrick Selmiyeritar - Eldritch Knight, Senior Guard of que'llar Selmiyeritar.
Ryltar - Escaped convict, murderer.
Konravian Drekk - Assassin/Pirate Drow, of Bregan D'aerthe.
Lanthalosa Drekk - Warlock
Vadrick Selmiyeritar - Eldritch Knight, Senior Guard of que'llar Selmiyeritar.
Ryltar - Escaped convict, murderer.
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