I hope this assists with your character concept. Additional questions are welcome, however, should I prove to have failed to provide what you needed to know.
Well, the character concept is a Duerra cleric who is sent down from Dunspeirrin (the current base of Duerra worshippers, even though it is in decline, if I understand correctly)? to Sshamath.
The purpose is to scout for possible expansion of Duergar territory (for example, the Illithid mines, or other territory in the Underdark more generally and broadly), engaging alliances in order to hope to win more land for the race. A possible reason could be that Duerra, or diviners beloning to Duerra, have a sense of urgency for expanding and furthering the race, more or less unconsciously feeling that the end for her is drawing near.
The character is male, so he is in a clear minority among the worshippers, but enough diplomatic and not so brash as many others, which is why he is sent as an emissary.
Sounds reasonable?
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Sounds reasonable to me. This links above on Deep Duerra describe the worshipers and priests of Deep Duerra (called "norothor"). This except from Faiths and Pantheons (p. 117) may help you in portraying a priest of Deep Duerra as well, as this is the faith's dogma:
The children of Laduguer shall conquer the earth and stone from which they sprang and the voids in which they dwell. The seizing of new lands, new wealth, and new servitors is the manifest destiny of those who mine the Night Below. Magic is weak, unreliable, and unsubtle when compared to the power of the mind unless bequeathed and steadied by the will of the gods. By means of the Invisible Art, the duergar shall destroy or enslave all those reliant upon petty magics to survive.
This could color your character's view of Sshamath, its leaders, and its powerful political figures (almost all drow wizards). Note, however, that it would probably be unwise to challenge Sshamath's established powers openly, given recent events and common sense alike. As you say, subtlety is probably a good idea.
By this, i mean people doing the rituals and prayers of multiple different gods, paying great heed to almost an entire pantheon, even giving some service to the gods they converted from?
Hoihe is currently:
Worshipping Asgorath
promoting Bahamut
pleading to Tamara
pleading to Chronepsis
pleading to Lendys
giving offerings to Valkur
giving offerings to Tymora
serving and praying to Oghma (Seeker of Candlekeep)
servicing to Azuth
servicing to Mystra.
With all these faiths he has going, would he get in deicfic trouble?
Also... What are the effects of a Silvanusite druid growing close (romance) with a Talassan ranger? Would it invoke the wrath of their gods?
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Hoihe wrote:Polyteism, is it frowned upon the coast?
By this, i mean people doing the rituals and prayers of multiple different gods, paying great heed to almost an entire pantheon, even giving some service to the gods they converted from?
Hoihe is currently:
Worshipping Asgorath
promoting Bahamut
pleading to Tamara
pleading to Chronepsis
pleading to Lendys
giving offerings to Valkur
giving offerings to Tymora
serving and praying to Oghma (Seeker of Candlekeep)
servicing to Azuth
servicing to Mystra.
With all these faiths he has going, would he get in deicfic trouble?
Also... What are the effects of a Silvanusite druid growing close (romance) with a Talassan ranger? Would it invoke the wrath of their gods?
There are many deities that are closely related in dogma and the practices of their worshippers that polyteism is very comon. As a ranger of Mielikki, Catam also stops at the shrine of Silvanus for a quick prayer when he is in the area.
Now.. about Silvanus and Talos... how passionate are the two about each other compared to their deities??
Good reading here for Hoihe... Faiths and Pantheons
If one of the deities have a conflict with the other it might cause issues since using the name of a god or goddess gives them ears in that area for a specific time and range. Check out the pdf for details on each.
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Bak Hazo - "Huf-uhk futs goot!"
They are about the same level of passion as their gods are, save that it's love and not hate. I'm all in if a DM decides to throw a boulder at Calinde or Vento, at best they will be forced to convert.
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Regarding deity worship, right out of the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting (page 93):
Some Faerunians zealously follow one deity. Others make sacrifices to many deities, while upholding one as their personal patron. Still others sacrifice to as many deities as possible, shifting allegiances as their circumstances and needs warrant. It's a rare Faerunian who hasn't occasionally hoped to avert the baleful influence of an evil deity with a propitious gift, or thanked a good power for an unexpected blessing. The belief system of most Faerunians generally centers on a particular deity whose interests and influences are most likely to affect them, but acknowledges other gods as significant and important, too.
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Maecius wrote:Regarding deity worship, right out of the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting (page 93):
Some Faerunians zealously follow one deity. Others make sacrifices to many deities, while upholding one as their personal patron. Still others sacrifice to as many deities as possible, shifting allegiances as their circumstances and needs warrant. It's a rare Faerunian who hasn't occasionally hoped to avert the baleful influence of an evil deity with a propitious gift, or thanked a good power for an unexpected blessing. The belief system of most Faerunians generally centers on a particular deity whose interests and influences are most likely to affect them, but acknowledges other gods as significant and important, too.
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Catam - Resurrected Ranger of Mielikki
Bak Hazo - "Huf-uhk futs goot!"
Also, it seems logical that with deities with different portfolios, people will pray to one that is relevant for their wish. Farmers will pray to Chauntea for their crops, Illmater to spare them from pain and sickness (although I guess you might pray to Talona for the last one), and so on.
I imagine it much as how the ancient greek, roman, egyptian and norse mythologies worked.
Laitae Lafreth, became Chosen of Mystra, former Great Reader of Candlekeep Nëa the Little Shadow Uranhed Jandinwed, Guide of Candlekeep
Hi. I would like to ask what is the server lore on the Order of the Radiant Heart. The only official mention of it that I found was in Complete Paladin Handbook (2nd Edition). Is there more accurate, 3rd Edition guide with information about it? Was the existence of Order's chapter in Baldur's Gate lore-accurate? And is there really a chapter of it in Athkatla or was it just included in game? (I haven't found any mention of the order in Volo's Guide to Baldur's Gate II.) If it was just in SoA, what is server's lore position on this?
Leo wrote:Hi. I would like to ask what is the server lore on the Order of the Radiant Heart. The only official mention of it that I found was in Complete Paladin Handbook (2nd Edition). Is there more accurate, 3rd Edition guide with information about it? Was the existence of Order's chapter in Baldur's Gate lore-accurate? And is there really a chapter of it in Athkatla or was it just included in game? (I haven't found any mention of the order in Volo's Guide to Baldur's Gate II.) If it was just in SoA, what is server's lore position on this?
Not to doubt you but the only paladin orders I see mentioned in the Complete Paladin are:
Most Noble Order of the Radiant Heart
Radiant Heart Auxiliary
Ancient and Revered Order of the Thorn
Distinguished Order of the Crystal Dawn
Righteous Order of the Iron Dragon
Order of the Divine Hand
Also, it was my understanding that the Order of the Silver Rose is not canon lore from any source books but actually a player guild that migrated from the nwn2 server called Forgotten Realms. There is one article that mentions the order but it seemed like the order was actually created by the author for a campaign he was DMing though I could be mistaken. Relevant links that might help you: http://www.lenholgate.com/blog/1992/02/ ... -rose.html http://sotl.freeforums.org/
Perhaps ask these two if they can help since they are the ones that brought the order to this server: LISA100595 gfya1369
Catam - Resurrected Ranger of Mielikki
Bak Hazo - "Huf-uhk futs goot!"
Hello, recently my character has been involved in plot with the City Relief. He and his sister are to take on the task of speaking with the local farmers regarding changes to agriculture, what is working, what is not, what developments can be made to stabilize the crops with the current drought.
Edwin (my character) comes from a family of third generation farmers, and lived within the agricultural community until his father became wealthy in Edwin's late teens.
(touches home, my own father's a fifth Generation german/american farmer)
So my questions for lore are ones of technology advancements and how it effects agricultural development.
Historically, Medieval farming was done with far different techniques than later generations.
Examples: At the period science hadn't much effect in the field of agriculture (pun intended), there was no knowledge of crop rotation or fertalization. The common practice of the time was a three field system. The farmers would leave one third of their fields "the fallow" uncultivated , one third of their fields planted in the april with spring crops (barley, oat and other grains) and the last third was developed for winter crops (beet leaves, cabbage, kale, celery, leeks, parsnips, spinach, swedes, turnips and cress) which were planted in the previous autumn and were havested from november to february as needed. This system was implimented to offset soil fertility issues as a result of crops taking nutrients from the soil, much like crop rotation it required them to shift their planting layout, but not to put nutrients back into the soil as crop rotation would, instead just to alleviate the strain upon a field long enough for it to recover a bit of it's previous fertility. Also of note, poor farming tool technology (farming by hand was done with oversized rakes with 6-8 wooden pegs for tines), smaller oxen without proper breeding (It took a team of eight oxen with a ploughman, and ox-goader a whole day to cultivate an acre of land)
(lol now that the history lesson is done)
My questions:
Forgotten Realms is a magical places, culture varies depending where you go, as does technology.
Along the sword coast what would be normal for agriculture? are they still in a period of early to mid medieval development, or is their technology advanced enough that they use fertalizer, crop rotation, draft horses, watermills, aqueducts for irrigation and water allotment?
My character would be spending a lot of time in candlekeep researching what he can before talking to the farmers.
Knowing what tools they have at their disposal, what technology they have, and further more what technology and science can be drawn to Baldur's Gate from other cultures after a full review of articals and scripts at the library of Candlekeep, will all be important to the rp and finding a way to improve and overcome the drought and farming issues.
Thank you, I know that was a mouthful. Whoever reads it I am indebted to you even if you've no helpful advice.
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Your description of medieval farming is very near the practical reality in the surrounding farmlands of Baldur’s Gate. Agriculture is somewhat less sophisticated here than much further south where there are advanced irrigation techniques and monocrop plantations that service primary goods export economies. The Baldurian economy is mostly built on being a critical waypoint for north-south trade and most agriculture is subsistence-orientated rather than surplus-orientated. It is arguably still more sophisticated than further north in Waterdeep, where the mass importing of food depresses local prices and disincentivises commercial farming.
Around Baldur’s Gate, practical magic in agriculture is almost unheard of, but religion plays a massive role. Most all of the peasant class will attribute success and failure of crops to divine intervention or abstention.
Techniques and knowledge from elsewhere often do not translate well to local contexts with their own specific environments, but there might be some that are transferable. I’m the principle DM for the farmlands storyline so go ahead and do the Candlekeep RP, PM me with details of your investigation, and we can work out the details together and proceed from there.
Leo wrote:Hi. I would like to ask what is the server lore on the Order of the Radiant Heart. The only official mention of it that I found was in Complete Paladin Handbook (2nd Edition). Is there more accurate, 3rd Edition guide with information about it? Was the existence of Order's chapter in Baldur's Gate lore-accurate? And is there really a chapter of it in Athkatla or was it just included in game? (I haven't found any mention of the order in Volo's Guide to Baldur's Gate II.) If it was just in SoA, what is server's lore position on this?
Not to doubt you but the only paladin orders I see mentioned in the Complete Paladin are:
Most Noble Order of the Radiant Heart
Radiant Heart Auxiliary
Ancient and Revered Order of the Thorn
Distinguished Order of the Crystal Dawn
Righteous Order of the Iron Dragon
Order of the Divine Hand
Also, it was my understanding that the Order of the Silver Rose is not canon lore from any source books but actually a player guild that migrated from the nwn2 server called Forgotten Realms. There is one article that mentions the order but it seemed like the order was actually created by the author for a campaign he was DMing though I could be mistaken. Relevant links that might help you: http://www.lenholgate.com/blog/1992/02/ ... -rose.html http://sotl.freeforums.org/
Perhaps ask these two if they can help since they are the ones that brought the order to this server: LISA100595 gfya1369
Thank you but I was asking about the Order of the Radiant Heart, not the Order of the Silver Rose. I am still looking for an information on the location of their chapters and possible changes made to it in the 3rd edition.
