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elemental archer

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Is there somewhere i can build an elemental archer, the nwn builder doesnt let me because it is a custom class. im trying to figure out a ranger build.

any help would be great, thanks.
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Re: elemental archer

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http://bgtscc.net/viewtopic.php?p=309686#p309686

Jegs training module.

It's good for elemental archer builds. Not necessarily good for everything, but it's pretty good for most builds.
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perfect thanks alot!, i was thinking ranger 22/EA5/rogue 3
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Sounds like a solid no-brainer. Let me tell you, I truly enjoy that AOE ability from elemental archer. Probably my favorite part of the class.
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Re: elemental archer

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awesome im new to it, and after i get bane of enemies from ranger i wanted to get something to add a little kick of damage, rogue is an obvious for sneaks and i was thinking EA for an AB/dmg boost.

thanks for the input!
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NWN Builder does have Elemental Archer, I think you need to select Kaedrin's Class Pack to see it.
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Re: elemental archer

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totally misread the initial post,

Refer to what Nomster said. It's in there. Since you are new to the server, just make sure you read the "Custom Changes" thread and the linked "Custom Classes" pages. A few have differences from Keadrin's. Same thing with the feats.
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Re: elemental archer

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http://nwn2db.com/build/?166855

this build look any good?


EDIT: I have not done skills on that, i know what i'm doing for that though. and it's pretty much irrelevant.
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You forgot to make it public ;)

Putting in skills is good though, people can give some pointers on it as well.
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k i made public, i havent spent all my skills cause those are the only ones i want so i'll fill the rest in somewhere.
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First off, I'm not a pro-builder. Which is why all my builds are hidden :P
For damage and AC, someone else would have to chime in.

I can see immediately that you have an illegal build, as it doesn't follow the 3b20 rule, in other words if you multi-class you need to have 3 levels in every class before (or at) lvl 20.

Why have you picked Improved Initiative (only good as a pre-req to a feat), and Dash as an Epic Feat? Not too sure about Dodge - I've only seen it taken as a pre-req for Shadow Dancer. If you want other feats to consider, Blindfight can be handy against foes with concealment.

For Favoured Enemies, consider Giants (most of the server is made up of them). If you want orcs and undead, you could benefit from picking them sooner.

As for skills, Ranger doesn't get Tumble. From your other posts, I get the feeling you want to focus on RP. Could be nice to have a social skill? ;)
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Re: elemental archer

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You cannot do this build on BG. You have to have 3 levels in every class you plan to take by the time you reach level 20.


Also there are not enough dragons around to waste a favored enemy on them. You would be better off changing that to giants as there are many more of them around.

Rangers do not get tumble as a class skill on BG and you want to max out hide and move silently if you plan on using stealth.

Dont worry about blindsight. rangers have a spell that grants it.

You will want a little more strength. With 10 you wont be able to carry anything or benifit from mighty properties on bows.

Let me see what I can whip up real quick.
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Re: elemental archer

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the initiative is automatic i didnt take that i dont think, if i did it was a mistake lol i never take those.

social skills i might consider, and i do have 3 of all, 22 ranger, 5 EA and 3 rogue. it will be build differently as i level, i built him that way cause it's an instant build, it will go. 6 ranger,5EA then 3 rogue, followed by the remaining ranger.

dodge is Ac bonus, so yeah i might rethink, and dash i did because with HIPS (outdoor) i wanna be able to move away from that area quickly so i can reorganize and open fire again.

that is a rough draft i guess, i don't like those "builders" very much

Giants as a favoured, any other good options for favoured, i dont know the end game content.

how much str would i need for mighty?
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Alrighty - a bit confusing at first, I mean, why build something, ask someone to look at it and then.. its not the build as you would take it as. :?

If you can survive to lvl 29 without Dash... I dunno! I guess by that level you have made up your mind. (Does the feat stack with Longstrider spell btw?). There are items with Haste though somewhat pricey.

Mighty depends on how much the bow you use will allow. More the merrier..? You can put away some points from Wisdom and wear a +2 or +3 Wisdom item. +3 Wis Amulets are easy to come by and you will get Natural Armor through a spell (just mind the dispels...). Remember that you get Cat's Grace (dex) and Bull's Endurance (con) but not Bull's Strength.

Err.. Favoured.. There are always different areas at each level. Undead and Elementals can be good choices because they have damage resistance. In the epics, Yuan-Ti may be a good choice (I -think- they were Monstrous Humanoids). Lizard's aren't as numerous, Orcs are not either but both are in one area pre-epic and one in epics. Dragons are good for wyverns? and bosses. RP choices aren't bad :) some people pick favoured based on bosses.
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Re: elemental archer

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Here would be my suggestion on how to do the build. (Mind you there are others out there who are better builders then I am, but I do know rangers on BG)

http://nwn2db.com/build/?166863

Dont worry about taking Dash at all. There are gloves out there that are ranger only that give the feat for free, as well as the swashbuckler chainmail.

Rangers get spells that give natural and deflection bonus's. I would keep wisdom at 14 and then if you do get a +2 item for the bonus spells that you would get. I would also get as many spell slot items as you can. It can help to buff up yourself and your companion. As late as you are going to get HiPs you are other going to need someone to party with or to use your companion as a tank. Unfortunately for an archer in BG AC is always going to be on the low side.

(skills are just a suggestion)
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