I don't know. I heard that once you go blackmagic, you never go back.Hitman Hard wrote:I heard somewhere but can't recall. . .that once a Pale Master always a Pale Master? Does this apply on our server even if one RCR's?
Pale Master prc as means to immortality via undeath
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Chopping your arm off and replacing it with a skeleton arm seems kinda permanent to me, as well as the other changes a Pale Master goes through.Hitman Hard wrote:I heard somewhere but can't recall. . .that once a Pale Master always a Pale Master? Does this apply on our server even if one RCR's?
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Some RCRs just don't make sense. At all.Hitman Hard wrote:I heard somewhere but can't recall. . .that once a Pale Master always a Pale Master? Does this apply on our server even if one RCR's?
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Undead Graft is: "with a supernaturally-animated, undead appendage." A vampire is undead. So is a mummy.
Hells, by the logic of the lore description of the undead graft, the arm could be a lich's arm!!

Hells, by the logic of the lore description of the undead graft, the arm could be a lich's arm!!
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Miracle/Wish should fix it.
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I'm not entirely sure, but if you detatch the graft again and cast a regenerate, that might also fix it...
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If your intent is to confront them power-wise for demonstrativeFlasmix wrote:Go ahead, let Pale Master's be considered immortal! On the condition that they can be turned and I can use Control Undead on them, then sure!
reasons, I strongly recommend not taking this particular route. In the specific, Liches have +4 bonus vs Turn Undead (meaning, unless you grossly outlevel the creature, you will not turn them. Therefore, once they would theoretically reach the server cap, they would be immune to turning save DM intervention for all practical purposes), as well as incredibly high will saves (making Control Undead fairly weak against them to say the least).
Actually, much more than that. The difference between a regular Pale Master and a full-fledged Lich is really big.stevebarracuda wrote:We know that a Lich isn't a pale master, since there is this crazy thing called phylactery involved.
The Pale Master is a living being with magically implanted dead parts, which acquires certain undead properties in time. But he is always fully considered alive. The Lich is completely dead, often for a while, even.A lich is considered an undead spellcaster, and a pale master is not technically undead, though a pale master has undead parts on their body. But a pale master could turn into a Lich, but we are unsure if a Lich would need (or want) to be a pale master.
A Lich would never care about being a Pale Master (which adds nothing to his powers), as he would concern himself strictly with his magical power's growth. A Pale Master can become a Lich, if he is powerful enough to go through with the ritual. A full Wizard or any other mage can do so just as efficiently, if not more so. It's a matter of magical power and willingness to spill innocents' blood.
It's a fairly common opinion, given what you have to do in both cases to reach that kind of status.I think it is fair to say a certain madness is involved, either way!
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