how much UMD do you need?

[bono_bob]

I currently have 8 umd (4 rank + cha) and can't use a lawful plus 1 shield or any form of scrolls.

[Storm Munin]

Read the skill explanation in your character sheet.

DC13 for wands etc.

[Aelcar]

You need at least 1 skill point spent in UMD even if you have gear & CHA bonuses, because it's a skill that requires training.

Values: UMD 10 for wands, 13 for items, 25 + Spell Circle for scrolls (notice that in vanilla NWN2 this should be 20+SC. Here, it is NOT the case, so adjust as needed).

Have fun!

[Passiflora]

Try to aim either for 34 or 10-15(usefull to have moar when you're cursed).

[Thorsson]

Don't forget that those are adjusted ranks...

[Xanfyrst]

Don't forget that those are adjusted ranks...

Which means that you can boost it with items and spells.

It's entirely possible (but unlikely) for someone who has 0 UMD naked, to have high UMD with items and spells (spells you can cast with those items on)

Nifty, eh?

[dzidek1983]

you need all you can get
thats how powerfull it is

the right scroll in the right place at a right time is worth more then your uber dandy super +5 sword

[bono_bob]

I did read the character sheet, it makes no sense. I should fulfill requirements.

Perhaps a better clarifying question is that are you counted as rolling 0 with these dcs? With UND 8 I csnt even use a plus 1 item, but 10+8= 18.


When I read the letters DC, in my brain that ALWAYS mean a D20 is involved.

I was honestly worries that UND was merged somehow or that my character was bugged.

[Karond]

You have 18 charisma (+4 modifier). You said that you have 4 ranks in UMD.

Thus, with no other increase to charisma you need a total of:

6 ranks in umd to use wands
9 ranks in umd to use restricted items
22 ranks in umd to use level 1 scrolls
30 ranks in umd to use level 9 scrolls

Ranks is skillpoints spent on the skill during Level Up. That's it. There are no dice involved here. You just need a certain amount of UMD to be able to do something.

[illithid]

You might be getting confused with level restriction. Items worth a certain amount of gold start to incur level restrictions to equip, so as not to allow level 1 player equipping level 30 gear. I think AC+2 gear needs level 5 etc. etc.

Alternatively...

You may be trying to equip an item that you don't have the proficiencies for, eg equipping a kama without "Exotic Weapon Proficiency"

[mireigi]

UMD allows you to

• Equip/use items restricted by race - UMD 5
  Equip/use items restricted by alignment - UMD 10
  Equip/use items resitrcted by class - UMD 13
  
  Use wands - UMD 10
  Use rods - UMD 12
  Use scrolls* - UMD 11 + 2 x Spell Level (13 for 1st level, 29 for 9th level)
  Cast scrolls** - UMD 25 + 1 x Spell Level (26 for 1st level, 34 for 9th level)

*: Chance of failure
**: No chance of failure

What UMD doesn't allow you to do, is use items that are restricted by level or require a specific proficiency, like Heavy Armor Proficiency.

[DM Dhampir]

UMD allows you to

• Equip/use items restricted by race - UMD 5
  Equip/use items restricted by alignment - UMD 10
  Equip/use items resitrcted by class - UMD 13
  
  Use wands - UMD 10
  Use rods - UMD 12
  Use scrolls - UMD 10 + 2 * Spell Level (12 for 1st level, 28 for 9th level)
  Cast scrolls - UMD 25 + 1 * Spell Level in UMD (26 for 1st level, 34 for 9th level)

What UMD doesn't allow you to do, is use items that are restricted by level or require a specific proficiency, like Heavy Armor Proficiency.

Well I just tested it yesterday actually.. You need 29 UMD to use lvl 9 spells.

[mireigi]

Strange then that Premonition (9th level) is flagged as useable for me when I have 28 UMD. Of course, this could be because I can't roll lower than a 1, and the game takes that into account.

I'll update my post.

[dzidek1983]

whats the difference between use and cast scroll?

[mireigi]

Use is to be able to use it. Cast is to have guaranteed success.