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fearknight2003
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Server reset while party member carries corpse to temple?

Unread post by fearknight2003 »

The server reset today while a party member carried my corpse to the temple- I had died due to bad rolls. I was going to be raised until the reset happened, forcing me to leave, which deleted my corpse. We had the things to raise me. What are the rules on 'corpse deletion due to bad timing'?
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Israe
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Re: Server reset while party member carries corpse to temple

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I can't speak for DM's, but from experience the general policy is corpse bugs and deleted on server reset won't be reimbursed :(
DM Narshe
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Re: Server reset while party member carries corpse to temple

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There is an infamous bug that occurs when someone who is carrying a corpse takes damage that should otherwise kill them but are instead allowed to survive. It may seem like they escaped alive, but Myrkul knows otherwise.

The bug is that the corpse being carried is removed from Myrkul's list while the person who was carrying it (the intended next corpse) is allowed to live.

This particular bug is difficult to prove otherwise and historically we've had to decline any potential refunds.

There is some solace to be sought in that the bug is extremely reliably repeatable and the response is always the same. We have to decline these requests as to not award experience where it isn't due. As unjust as that sounds, it prevents exploitation.
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Ithilan
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Re: Server reset while party member carries corpse to temple

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I understand the exploitable aspect of this issue and how theres no way for you to verify the truthfulness of the players. But I find it absolutely horrible that this shitty games mechanics can go on to punish people repeatedly.

Twice in two days (when finally able to get play time in between DDos attacks) ive died and had the server go down as my brother was carrying my corpse. This time around I thought I wouldnt settle with the massive experience deduction and search the forums for a solution, only to stumble upon this topic and now im just gonna log out instead. FML
DM Narshe
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Re: Server reset while party member carries corpse to temple

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It happens to all of us at some point.

Raise Dead scrolls are a worthwhile investment. They're usually no more than 1k and beats paying Myrkul in exp.
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Ithilan
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Re: Server reset while party member carries corpse to temple

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That they are, but with the server down half the span of an average day, it seems like the auction house has run utterly dry of supplies since people cant find time to produce or find them.

So there really isnt an "easy" fix to this issue, its becoming even more problematic with the attacks, since the server can seems to go down randomly and thus losing your corpse issues occur more frequently, its happened twice for me today for instance. Its heavilly demoralising.
DM Narshe
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Re: Server reset while party member carries corpse to temple

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Without replacing the death/corpse system with something else entirely, I don't think it's fixable.

The auctioneer is probably still recovering from when we had to remove him for a while. There are other places to find Raise Dead scrolls as well though. It might be worth asking around in game.
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Re: Server reset while party member carries corpse to temple

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Ithilan wrote:That they are, but with the server down half the span of an average day, it seems like the auction house has run utterly dry of supplies since people cant find time to produce or find them.

So there really isnt an "easy" fix to this issue, its becoming even more problematic with the attacks, since the server can seems to go down randomly and thus losing your corpse issues occur more frequently, its happened twice for me today for instance. Its heavilly demoralising.
Only "fix" is to have the player resurect at Myrkul and then have a DM refund the XP, which is pretty much a no no. I think it was done a few times in the past, but only when the crash was caused by a DM without informing the server that it is resetting.
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