Paladin / Divine Champion / Favored Soul?

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Paladin / Divine Champion / Favored Soul?

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Could someone perhaps suggest a build for this? I'm thinking a tank build with a bit of basic healing abilities at their side. I can't make builds really so if someone could for me I'd be really appreciative.
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Re: Paladin / Divine Champion / Favored Soul?

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Divine champion would really hurt this build unless you're wanting it specifically for some extra feats at the expense of spell casting. I would recommend FS21/P5/DC4. Make sure paladin 4 and 5 are taken on levels where you get a feat for divine might and divine shield. You need to be human or assimar to avoid xp penalties. Make sure to get practiced spell caster for 25'CL. Can't make a build for you as I'm at work, but this should give you a start.
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Re: Paladin / Divine Champion / Favored Soul?

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I would also recommend you do some research on playing a Paladin here. While this is a medium RP cooperative server the Paladin code is taken VERY SERIOUSLY.
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Re: Paladin / Divine Champion / Favored Soul?

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Is there a build where Paladin comes first, so I can RP as one right away?
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You could play it as a favored soul on his way to paladinhood, it can turn out pretty nice and you pretty much get to Rp as a paladin right away if you don't find an alternative in your build!
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I played a fighter that held herself to the paladin's code for a while and it was fun and rewarding, so who's to say you can't RP how you want?
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Calodan wrote:I would also recommend you do some research on playing a Paladin here. While this is a medium RP cooperative server the Paladin code is taken VERY SERIOUSLY.
Paladins caught lying were reported and never sanctioned. I have no idea what you mean.
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Re: Paladin / Divine Champion / Favored Soul?

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A CL of 25 is going to get dispelled like crazy at high epic dungeons. Keep that in mind. If you wanna play a gish, you're gonna need minimum 27 cl. I'd recommend trying to hit 30 if possible.

If you're cool with getting dispelled in the high epic areas, though, then don't sweat it.
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CL 25 can only be dispelled by Mords, right?
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Re: Paladin / Divine Champion / Favored Soul?

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chad878262 wrote:CL 25 can only be dispelled by Mords, right?
Well...

Here is the answer. Currently, there is a dispel bug in the game that uses your character level instead of caster level. This means that at level 30, everyone is immune to greater dispel magic.

But the dispel fix, so often talked about, will when implemented fix this to the correct formula: D20+casterlevel VS 11+casterlevel. Greater Dispel Magic has a cap at +20 on this server, thus it's:

D20+20 VS 11+casterlevel.

As you can see, if you've a casterlevel of 25 this means you've 25+11=36. So you're dispelled 20% of the time. To be immune under the dispel fix you need a caster level of 30. Not 29 as often believed, since an equal result means you get dispelled.

Keep in mind that this is a BGTSCC custom change. The NWN2 wiki is correct that you only need a CL of 25 to avoid greater dispel magic in the original game. However, on BGTSCC the dispel cap was changed. So at CL25 you're now only immune to dispel magic, not greater dispel magic or mordekainen.
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Possibly, if the CL bug ever gets fixed, then GDM will be brought back to the level it should be.
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Thorsson wrote:Possibly, if the CL bug ever gets fixed, then GDM will be brought back to the level it should be.
That would be only fair. The only reason the cap was increased, was because of the bug
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mrm3ntalist wrote:
Thorsson wrote:Possibly, if the CL bug ever gets fixed, then GDM will be brought back to the level it should be.
That would be only fair. The only reason the cap was increased, was because of the bug
Was that so? Because from what I've read in QC the staff at the time was completely unaware of this bug. Even if they somehow knew, it's a poor "fix".
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Karond wrote:
mrm3ntalist wrote:
Thorsson wrote:Possibly, if the CL bug ever gets fixed, then GDM will be brought back to the level it should be.
That would be only fair. The only reason the cap was increased, was because of the bug
Was that so? Because from what I've read in QC the staff at the time was completely unaware of this bug. Even if they somehow knew, it's a poor "fix".
I would be very suprised if some members of the team did not know. The only reason to increase the dispel cap is because it was not working. mostly because the dispel bug. For example a spell like shield cast from scroll (CL5) wasnt dispeled. To increase the effectiveness of the dispels, its cap was raised all they way. Once the dispel gets fix, that wont be the case anymore. Any spell with low CL will be dispeled. Therefore the reason for increasing the cap wont be there anymore so it can get back to normal.
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Re: Paladin / Divine Champion / Favored Soul?

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I actually don't know what any of you guys are talking about. I'm a complete noob.
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