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Darksol
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FS/cleric build, lets tweak this :)

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So after asking a few questions (Thank you Boddynock, Aurali and Chad), I set up a FS 27 / Cleric 3 build and am posting it here for review:)

http://nwn2db.com/build/?237844


Details:
- Gets CL 30 (or it goes to 31?) so less concern regarding dispels. Wis 9 and dex 9 so with +3 items and full plate I get +1 from dex and be able to cast low level cleric spells for support.

- Istishia for warhammer and water domain. With that I open up expose weakness. I m not sure about the second domain, I chose chaos since with 9 wisdom I will not be able to cast any of the spells the other domains offer and the slippery mind ability seemed useful. Thoughts?

- Vamp feast is expected to be saved, but even then its 50% damage to all and heal. RP wise the toon is Ch Neutral, so I feel it will be justified to use it on monsters under life threatening conditions? Again, thoughts? :)

- I am not sure I need Divine shield, but not sure what to replace it with...

- Tumble 16, UMD 16, ful concentration and spellcraft.

How does it look?
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build will do fine. You might consider making STR and CHA 22 instead of 21/23 since you could make Bull's STR one of you 2nd level FS spells (not that much competition at lvl 2, right?) then cast Eagle's Splender as a Cleric only when you want to EDM / DS since you don't need a long duration for it and you should have a couple casts per day. Downside is without the casts lasting long periods you won't gain the benefit of extra uses of TU/EDM, but you could always wear one of the items that gives +2 CHA / +2 CON and +10 HP or something and then Eagles Splender to gain the +1 right before activating EDM for boss fights.

Divine Shield is a nice to have, even if you only use it now and again (DM Events, big fights where even a FS is pushed to the limits....)
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The str/char split is based on the assumption that I will be able to get +3 items (and not +4) so ending str/char will be 24/26. With bulls str that gets to 28 while CHA buffed gets to 30.
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nope...doesn't stack. You can either use +3 items or +4 spells, not both.
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Well, I learn something new every day. So I think the best path is to end in even numbers to get full effect from buffs and if I get +4 I stop worrying about buffing that attribute completely.

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Building site allows you to pick more feats in FS' epic levels than it is actually possible. What I mean, in game you won't be able to pick so many feats.

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Finish STR even. CHA uneven for a +3 CHA item. So 21 CHA and 22 STR is about what should be attainable by a EDM FS build. Why 22 STR or even STR you ask? Well Bull's STR is one reason but the spell DIVINE POWER gives a +6 to STR and that is why. Basically the spell bonus is even from your spells and thusly ending on a uneven number. Only other way to get a higher bonus to STR is via a Paladin spell that adds a +4 Divine Bonus that stacks with any other STR bonus. With CHA ending at 21 you can actually get a higher base CHA for spell amount but lose 2 dmg and 1 AC for use of EDM and DS. Yet you get more spells that do more for the build anyway than that little bit anyway. Do not take the 10/Cold Iron or 10/Silver DR you have a bevy of spells that provide DR anyway that you can run most of the time. Instead use that for a Epic Spell of your choosing. I prefer Epic Mass Heal myself as it not only heals you completely and your companions close by but during undead events and fighting undead mobs you have a great nuke that can often kill many of the undead in your area outright. Otherwise this build is pretty solid as is and you will find it easy to play on the server. Good luck and have fun.
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Yeah. MedalofValor is right. You have an extra feat where you have epic prowess now. So that is one less feat you have available. You should have seven total epic feats including the FS bonus. Unless you want to stick with human for RP purposes, I would suggest Aasimar. From a pure mechanics point of view, you would lose a feat and some skill points but you would pick up 2 wis and 2 cha. That would free up some of your epic great attribute feats. You would need 3 greater stat feats, EDM, epic prowess and expose weakness for six of them leaving you with a free epic feat. You could remove divine shield for the lost feat and make wis 10 (lowest for Aasimar) and con 13 to raise int to 14 for the missing skill points. Then you would need a 3 con item but wouldn't lose hps on resting when you lose your bears endurance buff. I try not to rely on con buffs but that's just me (even though I do it at times). Then you could fit in vampiric feast for that bonus epic feat. The biggest downside is the xp penalty for multiclassing. But with this build, you shouldn't have any problems getting xp. It would just take longer. I've done it several times now all the way to 30.
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Thank you for your comments,

Although I don't need human for RP Aurali, I really don't want that ECL penalty, so I juggled the feats around a bit, got the epic spell instead of the last resistance and ended with 22 str / 21 cha as Calodan suggested.

It seems I can get epic prow and exp weakness both on 29, I ran it on JEGS and it seems fine.

http://nwn2db.com/build/?237844

Unless there is something else, I think he's good to go:)
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In my opinion it's better to get Epic Prowess / EW earlier as it will help with boss battles / levelling. Stackable -3 AC (up to five for -15 AC) will help even your last attack hit. I would make that your first and second feat, even if it delays EDM later in the build. Getting EW 7 levels earlier at the cost of delaying EDM 2 levels is a fair trade.
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