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Yhztro
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A few suggestions

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1. remove the breach spells and Mordenkainen's Disjunction, they are making buffing characters obsolete. They were removed in 3.5 and for good reasons.
2. Apply the fix for the sorc/wiz shield spell so it doesnt stack with the shield, it adds just too much survivability.
3. Seems that monk fist damage increase doesnt work while using a shield even tho i couldnt find anything stating that it shouldnt work.
4. Imo Hierophant adds a bit too much for that Harm, maybe tune it down a bit to an empowered version...
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Re: A few suggestions

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Yhztro wrote:1. remove the breach spells and Mordenkainen's Disjunction, they are making buffing characters obsolete. They were removed in 3.5 and for good reasons.
I disagree...This would make CL30 completely undispellable. With the dispel fix I can see removal of Breach, perhaps, but If Mordenkainen is removed the cap on Greater Dispel would need to be set to 30 so that a CL30 caster can still dispel another CL30 caster. Note that this will also make CL21 caster have a chance to dispel CL30. The calculation of greater dispel is CL + d20 with a max CL of 20 vs. DC 11 + CL. So currently a CL30 PC cannot be dispelled with a Greater dispel (20 + 20 = 40 vs. DC 11+30 = 41). Not saying this can't/shouldn't be done, but it would honestly just increase the disparity between CL 25-29 builds vs. CL 30 builds which based on community feedback might be a bad idea.
Yhztro wrote:2. Apply the fix for the sorc/wiz shield spell so it doesnt stack with the shield, it adds just too much survivability.
It doesn't stack. A heavy shield adds 2 AC. A heavy shield +4 adds 6 AC. The shield spell is a magical bonus, so you can have a Heavy Shield with no EB and casting shield will give a total of 6 AC. However, if you have a Heavy Shield +4, which grants 6 AC the only thing the shield spell will do for you is grant immunity to magic missile since the 4 AC from the spell won't stack with the EB of the Shield +4
Yhztro wrote:3. Seems that monk fist damage increase doesnt work while using a shield even tho i couldnt find anything stating that it shouldnt work.
Pretty sure Monk abilities are not supposed to work with armor or a shield. Someone more qualified can confirm as I'm not entirely sure, but honestly seems "wrong" to me for a Monk to be fighting with hands and feat while trying to wield a shield.
Yhztro wrote:4. Imo Hierophant adds a bit too much for that Harm, maybe tune it down a bit to an empowered version...
Haven't tested this, but maybe others can opine as to if they agree.
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Re: A few suggestions

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Dispels are part of DnD. Buff spells are not supposed to be 100% immune to counters.
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Re: A few suggestions

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1. breach component from disjunction is what i was taking about.
2. My mage friend tested the shield spell today and it does stack with the shield enhancement bonus.

Other things:
- It seems that weapon enhancement counts for mages touch attacks, for my cleric it doesnt.
- Azuth's spell shield seems a bit too much
- Anyspell and Greater Anyspell arent working, i would have been happy if at least anyspell would've been active as Greater Anyspell seems a bit strong.
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