Hierophant and Favored Soul

[DiceyCZ]

Alright, so after a looong forum search and google search and all I have no idea if Hierophant PRC should be open to Favored soul or not. Is it a bug or is it intentional that I can't take it with my FS? On forum it says you can get Hierophant with FS under custom classes but some time ago someone reported not being able to and it seemed ppl agreed they should be able to take the class. In game it does not list Favored Soul in possible Hierophant's classes. Other messages on forum suggest that yes FS should be able to take the PRC but still nothing and no one is posting it as bug anymore anywhere since the old "xDayxMonthUpdateBugThread"

So can someone clarify pls? Thanks

[NeOmega]

You would have to cross class it with a druid, cleric, or spirit shaman, and take 13 levels in their spell progression, and at least one level of favored soul, and of course, at least two more levels of favored soul before level 20.

In other words, you can do it, I think, but it wouldn't be that great of a build.

If you mean can you progress your level 7 spell casting FS to heirophant? No.

[DiceyCZ]

Then maybe someone should fix the information on the forum By the way, is there any special reason to exclude Favored Soul as the only divine caster?

Also I was more asking if it's a bug or intended since it seems kinda strange for it to be intentional. Simply wanna know if I should wait around for it to get fixed or forget about it.

[The Whistler]

Probably because gift of the deity on a neutral favored soul would be balls-to-the-wall retarded. The IG class description clearly states that it's available to clerics, druids and spirit shamans only.

[DiceyCZ]

And on the forum it states it's available to Favored soul too, also...I have seen much more *edited* broken things out there that are a go. Because of one idiotic spell I can't have charisma based healer? Also I wasn't really asking for opinion but for official response, everyone is biased against something. For example I think, most sneak attack based characters out there are *edited* broken so we should ban them because they can one-shot bosses and other characters.

Edited out some moderately offensive language. Please keep the posts civil. Thank you.

[The Whistler]

Of course you can have a CHA-based healer. Just dip 3 cleric of a deity that grants access to the healing domain. It opens up divine shield too, so you are golden.

There is no bias here, favored soul is objectively the single most absurd class in PvE. To call +6 to all stats on top of everything else FS gets overkill, would be an understatement. In the future if you're looking for a QC response specifically, it would help to make it clear in the OP and not after you've been told off by someone with a different opinion to yours.

For example I think, most sneak attack based characters out there are broken so we should ban them because they can one-shot bosses and other characters.

not enough wats in this world

[DiceyCZ]

Well the easier thing would be to just enable the visage of deity buff to clerics only. Anyway, could someone from team please give an official answer to this please? Thanks

[Lux]

There has been an ongoing discussion about this QC side for a couple of months. I've bumped it.

I'll try to remember to reply here again once it seems a bit more final.

[V'rass]

For example I think, most sneak attack based characters out there are broken so we should ban them because they can one-shot bosses and other characters.

Sneak attack characters are supposed to be able to one shot enemies. The whole point of being a rogue or assassin is to be able go unseen and strike down targets with one blow. Seriously this argument that classes which have better ability then others must be nerfed to be made equal annoys me greatly.

Certain classes will naturally be better then others and certain ones will likewise be trash. There will always be the haves and the have nots and this is entirely natural.
Its a little thing called Darwinism. Some are made to rule and some are made to serve. Those who pick good classes and play them well deserve to dominate... if someone picks a class that is weak or they cant play it effectively then too bad for them. As a great man once said: "Trying to make everyone equal only succeeds in making everyone equally mediocre".

[AC81]

Also, rogues don't one shot bosses. They can't even sneak around most big bosses. Rogues have so many hard counters it's crazy.

[Maecius]

There has been an ongoing discussion about this QC side for a couple of months. I've bumped it.

I'll try to remember to reply here again once it seems a bit more final.

Thank you

[Thorsson]

Some might think it's quite good that FS has one weakness in comparison to Clerics. Some might think that, but I couldn't possibly comment.

[mrm3ntalist]

I am very happy that the Hierrophant prc is not available to FSs. Much new content regarding diviners dont get added "because it will give more mechanical power to FSs". Any future divine additions would have to take into account any possible FS/Hierophant multiclass issues.

For me the 150 damage from harm on a failed save, is still an issue when playing a low DC FS.