Any active priest of kossuth?
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GholaMan
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Re: Any active priest of kossuth?
I'm just saying use 3.5 lore when looking stuff up for reference because that is where the server is set as, if its 3.0 or 2nd or 4th its not gonna be 100% accurate for the server.
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Re: Any active priest of kossuth?
Actually the server lore is first and second editions, because we're in the 1350s, pre-Time of Troubles. Setting wise, we haven't reached 3rd edition (and 3.5) yet because that takes place in the 1370s.
And, once again, there is no 3.5th version of Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting or Faiths and Pantheons. They weren't needed, because 3.5 is still part of 3rd edition; it's still one edition for the sake of setting content. That's why it was just given a half-edition. It wasn't an entirely new edition and didn't require the re-release of old content, because the rule changes were relatively few, were for the core handbooks only, and didn't affect the setting material. See here. Where changes were required, errata was released. And none of that errata changed the thing we're talking about here, as I already pointed out.
I've quoted content from the books on this list. Half of that list is 3.5 books, because all the 3rd edition books, regardless of if 3.0 or 3.5, all constitute FR's setting material for that time. You can't say "you can only look at 3.5" as if 3rd and 3.5 are entirely different, because they aren't; they're meant to be used together.
The closest thing to a 3.5 campaign setting re-release was Player's Guide to Faerun. Which... didn't change the nature deity list.
And, once again, there is no 3.5th version of Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting or Faiths and Pantheons. They weren't needed, because 3.5 is still part of 3rd edition; it's still one edition for the sake of setting content. That's why it was just given a half-edition. It wasn't an entirely new edition and didn't require the re-release of old content, because the rule changes were relatively few, were for the core handbooks only, and didn't affect the setting material. See here. Where changes were required, errata was released. And none of that errata changed the thing we're talking about here, as I already pointed out.
I've quoted content from the books on this list. Half of that list is 3.5 books, because all the 3rd edition books, regardless of if 3.0 or 3.5, all constitute FR's setting material for that time. You can't say "you can only look at 3.5" as if 3rd and 3.5 are entirely different, because they aren't; they're meant to be used together.
The closest thing to a 3.5 campaign setting re-release was Player's Guide to Faerun. Which... didn't change the nature deity list.
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GholaMan
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Re: Any active priest of kossuth?
If you want to pointlessly bicker with me I would be happy to oblige you.
The server is not 2nd edition or first. If this were a second edition server then why don't you try pulling up some 2nd edition lore instead the faiths and pantheons pdf? Yes the server's timeline is in the second edition timeframe before the time of troubles but everything else is 3.0-3.5 with a tiny, tiny drop of 4th. This server also has classes that are from 3.0 or 3.5 not from 2nd edition and the way leveling works its the same as 3.5. And prestige classes which were introduced in 3.0 not 2nd edition unless you count like the specialty priests etc. And yeah I am quite aware that faiths and pantheons in 3.0 not 3.5. As is pretty much every FR book that I can think of.
And what I wrote was you should look at the 3.5 lore not the 3.0 lore. I didn't write you can only look at 3.5 or don't look at 3.0 at all. Because 3.5 is an updated version of 3.0 but everything that was written in all the 3.5 books is not identical to the 3.0 versions. Not everything that is used on this server is 100% from FR 3.0 books. Mostly yeah it is but not all of it, did my original comment say that you were wrong? Did my original comment say that the nature deity list that you posted was out of date for a 3.0 FR server?
No my comment did not say any of these things that I mentioned. Yeah I should have been more specific, and yeah I should have posted a relevant comment instead of just making a general statement. To rewrite my comment in a different way you could read it as; to say when looking at lore stuff check 3.5 sources first because they are more accurate for the server. And if there are no 3.5 sources that are different than the statement clearly does not apply.
So what is it that you are trying to prove Rhifox?
The server is not 2nd edition or first. If this were a second edition server then why don't you try pulling up some 2nd edition lore instead the faiths and pantheons pdf? Yes the server's timeline is in the second edition timeframe before the time of troubles but everything else is 3.0-3.5 with a tiny, tiny drop of 4th. This server also has classes that are from 3.0 or 3.5 not from 2nd edition and the way leveling works its the same as 3.5. And prestige classes which were introduced in 3.0 not 2nd edition unless you count like the specialty priests etc. And yeah I am quite aware that faiths and pantheons in 3.0 not 3.5. As is pretty much every FR book that I can think of.
And what I wrote was you should look at the 3.5 lore not the 3.0 lore. I didn't write you can only look at 3.5 or don't look at 3.0 at all. Because 3.5 is an updated version of 3.0 but everything that was written in all the 3.5 books is not identical to the 3.0 versions. Not everything that is used on this server is 100% from FR 3.0 books. Mostly yeah it is but not all of it, did my original comment say that you were wrong? Did my original comment say that the nature deity list that you posted was out of date for a 3.0 FR server?
No my comment did not say any of these things that I mentioned. Yeah I should have been more specific, and yeah I should have posted a relevant comment instead of just making a general statement. To rewrite my comment in a different way you could read it as; to say when looking at lore stuff check 3.5 sources first because they are more accurate for the server. And if there are no 3.5 sources that are different than the statement clearly does not apply.
So what is it that you are trying to prove Rhifox?
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Re: Any active priest of kossuth?
Question asked and answered, and the conversation has gotten off topic. Locking this thread.
If a given deity supports druids mechanically, then for the purposes of the server lore the deity can be safely assumed to support druids IC as well.
If a given deity supports druids mechanically, then for the purposes of the server lore the deity can be safely assumed to support druids IC as well.
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