Can we revert back to the old Bigby Spells?

[Nyeleni]

Yep, that is totally unfair.

[Maecius]

Rasael's next update will include the following:

- Bigby's hand series: Are now more endurable. Will prefer original target, whenver viable.

We'll see if it helps?

Regarding monsters, we may be able to allow the new spells for them at some point, but there were a lot of technical issues with it that we'll need to overcome before it's feasible.

[arakes99]

If you need scripting help for that, I will do it out of personal want to see it done

[Snarfy]

What about the bug that I mentioned several times in numerous feedback threads? As in: the one that causes server NPC's to become hostile when you hit your Bigby summons with an AoE. The spells being nerf'd down the their current state is one thing, but that bug is just game breaking for casters who utilize AoE's to do damage, and is basically one of the many reasons I stopped playing my caster(... and then summarily stopped playing all my other characters too! ).

[mrm3ntalist]

What about the bug that I mentioned several times in numerous feedback threads? As in: the one that causes server NPC's to become hostile when you hit your Bigby summons with an AoE.

Where you using any specific AoE spell?

I tried with wall of fire, Cloudkill, Negative Energy Burst, Evards and Chaos, and the NPCs did not turn hostile to me

[Snarfy]

Where you using any specific AoE spell?

I tried with wall of fire, Cloudkill, Negative Energy Burst, Evards and Chaos, and the NPCs did not turn hostile to me

Hitting the Bigbys hands with Ice storm caused npcs to go hostile on 3 consecutive tests.

[mrm3ntalist]

Where you using any specific AoE spell?

I tried with wall of fire, Cloudkill, Negative Energy Burst, Evards and Chaos, and the NPCs did not turn hostile to me

Hitting the Bigbys hands with Ice storm caused npcs to go hostile on 3 consecutive tests.

Thanks. I didnt try Ice storm. Will do it.

[Snarfy]

Where you using any specific AoE spell?

I tried with wall of fire, Cloudkill, Negative Energy Burst, Evards and Chaos, and the NPCs did not turn hostile to me

Hitting the Bigbys hands with Ice storm caused npcs to go hostile on 3 consecutive tests.

Thanks. I didnt try Ice storm. Will do it.

Tested it again...



... and it happened again:



I don't know if damaging the bigbys or the elemental is causing the NPC's to go hostile, but I'll test after next reset without summoning the elemental.

[matelener]

I'm killing my bigbies 5,6,9 all day long. No hostility from NPCs.

[Snarfy]

I'm killing my bigbies 5,6,9 all day long. No hostility from NPCs.

Hmm, must be from hitting my elemental then... ? Thanks for the feedback, I'll test that out later.

*edit* Did you kill yours with Ice Storm by chance?

[matelener]

I'm killing my bigbies 5,6,9 all day long. No hostility from NPCs.

Hmm, must be from hitting my elemental then... ? Thanks for the feedback, I'll test that out later.

*edit* Did you kill yours with Ice Storm by chance?

Or the clenched bigby is bugged (8).

[Snarfy]

Did more testing, and I'm scratching my head...

First test: I summoned only the elder elemental, then hit it with an ice storm and the server NPC's did not turn hostile.

Second test: I dismissed the elemental, then cast Bigby's 9 on a bugbear, hit them both with an ice storm and the server NPC's, again, did not turn hostile.

Third Test: I moved beside the farmer who gives the scarecrow quest, then summoned the elemental again and positioned both summons next to each other and hit them with ice storm, which prompted the server NPC's to immediately turn hostile. Namely, the cow and the Fist guards but not the farmer in this case, as I've noticed previously that quest givers and merchants will not turn hostile.

Anyhow, it is definitely a case of hitting multiple summons(perhaps of different varieties) at the same time that's causing this bug. QC will have to explore this one further as I wont be able to test again for 9 hours(server just reset).