Gaseous Form

Boddynock · Unread post by **Boddynock** » Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:57 am

This spell does little in the description to tell you what it actually does, and the things it does tell you are not working (based on http://bgtscc.wikia.com/wiki/Gaseous_Form).

It doesn't seem to increase speed, and I can't figure out how to make anyone else into a cloud with me yet, and it isn't dismissable, you have to wait for it to wear off. In addition, the spells causes crashing when transitioning in gaseous form. Also, why was it implemented as a 6th/7th level spell? It is clearly not on par with other 6th level spells even if it was working as intended, and according to PNP it is a 3rd level spell (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/gaseousForm.htm). Not also that the third level description is for 2 minutes per level, while our version, at 6th level, is only 1 round per level.

What are the actual intended effects of this spell, can they be added to the description, and can adjusting the level of the spell to one that reflects it's actual power be considered?

mrm3ntalist · Unread post by **mrm3ntalist** » Wed Sep 14, 2016 11:23 am

The part on the wiki about taking another person with you, has been removed. I will update the description more when i reach lvl6 spells. Underlined "Possibly". Now it reflects 100% percent the spells behavior in game.

flipside43 · Unread post by **flipside43** » Wed Sep 14, 2016 11:41 am

You can turn another person but you both need to be directly inside the tiny bubble, basically next to each other. I managed to do it with Fingal and Luke not long ago.

EDIT: I should note the spell shape is buggy as sometimes reverting to your form does not show up, nor does it list in dismiss spell. Only way out is resting.

mrm3ntalist · Unread post by **mrm3ntalist** » Wed Sep 14, 2016 11:43 am

Thanks flip, i will revert the change

Boddynock · Unread post by **Boddynock** » Wed Sep 14, 2016 11:50 am

Ok, why mention speed when it has no effect on speed at all? And what about the crashing, the fact it can't be dismissed, the 6th level versus 3rd, the duration question, and the description actually detailing what the spell does, also the actual intent of the spell?

It's hard to say whether a thing is working as intended when what is intended isn't shared. Is the concealment intended?

Valefort · Unread post by **Valefort** » Wed Sep 14, 2016 12:40 pm

It makes you immune to physical damage, fire, acid, electricity, cold, sonic, gives 30% concealment, and 30% speed increase. You also gain Immunity to critical hits, entangle, knockdown, paralysis, sneak attack, traps.

Boddynock · Unread post by **Boddynock** » Wed Sep 14, 2016 12:43 pm

Valefort wrote:It makes you immune to physical damage, fire, acid, electricity, cold, sonic, gives 30% concealment, and 30% speed increase. You also gain Immunity to critical hits, entangle, knockdown, paralysis, sneak attack, traps.

Ok, so I know for fact some of those aren't working. I'll test it more later today and come back and update.

Valefort · Unread post by **Valefort** » Wed Sep 14, 2016 1:24 pm

Please do, I listed what the spell is supposed to make but bugs happen.

Tsidkenu · Unread post by **Tsidkenu** » Wed Sep 14, 2016 2:46 pm

The spell is dismissable. Right click yourself and select the polymorph icon 'Return to Original Form', unless that part of it got bugged between the last time I used it and now?

Starling · Unread post by **Starling** » Wed Sep 14, 2016 3:21 pm

I took this spell and immediately regretted it. Heavy waste of a 6th level spell. I have also not been able to find a way to dismiss it, except to rest. No polymorph cancel option on right click, not in dismiss spell either.

Edit: Or I can wait the two minutes for it to clear.

Flasmix · Unread post by **Flasmix** » Wed Sep 14, 2016 5:20 pm

I took it so I can say my orc is a floating fart cloud.

flipside43 · Unread post by **flipside43** » Wed Sep 14, 2016 5:21 pm

Tsidkenu wrote:The spell is dismissable. Right click yourself and select the polymorph icon 'Return to Original Form', unless that part of it got bugged between the last time I used it and now?

It does bug yes and the option is not present.

Steve · Unread post by **Steve** » Wed Sep 14, 2016 5:23 pm

Gaseous Form is an awesome Feat when given via Cavestalker.

I was and still am bummed that it got made into a spell available to anyone—it seemed like the rare bonus to that PrC.

So a part of me is kinda happy it works like crap for spell casters!!

Boddynock · Unread post by **Boddynock** » Wed Sep 14, 2016 5:31 pm

Valefort wrote:It makes you immune to physical damage, fire, acid, electricity, cold, sonic, gives 30% concealment, and 30% speed increase. You also gain Immunity to critical hits, entangle, knockdown, paralysis, sneak attack, traps.

Testing as I can, red means not working, green is working. Untested is uncolored. Was affected by the grease spell, and the spell cannot be dismissed via any drop down option (polymorph revert does not appear).

Also, it seems one PC could not target me even after I gave him see invisibility, but Isabella could when she had blindsight, but enemies have no problem targeting you at all.

In addition you gain total spell failure, should be listed in description.

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