Cleric-Using mark runes

[tfunke]

I came on here now to find out what the go is with this spell. I've tried using it 4 times now (850 gold a pop) and failed every time.
Just read this to find out search is required, which as the reasons above state, is not going to ever happen for my character because she gets 2 skill points a level. Survival is no better.

How did the discussion go flamix?

[Flasmix]

I requested it be changed to Concentration because search is useless on a Cleric and gave the reasons mentioned previously. An admin said that 'It will always stay useless if we think that way' and the thread was moved to Closed. Someone asked for an update to see if any changes were made and there's been no update since... So.... *Shrugs*

[tfunke]

Is there any chance of finding out how much search is realistically required to use it?

[Flasmix]

You'll have to look directly at the old Teleporting script which has bonuses and penalties for it. I was trying to think of a way to help with the lack of Search skill and thought "What if I get a bunch of equipment which gives a bonus to search?"

Then I remembered that for teleport, if you have equipment that gives a bonus to concentration it's not applied. Good chance it's the same script so it's all base skill.

[V'rass]

Until its changed from search to some other skill I and many others will not be using it.

[Flasmix]

It works 75% of the time when I need to move like... 2 maps away but it still costs 850 and it's when I'm lazy

[RamenKing]

So is it pretty safe to assume that it will remain a 'Search' check?

[Flasmix]

It was a big reason as to why I RCR'd out of Cleric when we had 100% refund. Search isn't a class skill for Clerics, so it's a bad spell. If you can spare the skill points, take some UMD and use gear to boost it high enough to use TP scrolls. It's a lot more reliable.

[Velaris]

It was a big reason as to why I RCR'd out of Cleric when we had 100% refund. Search isn't a class skill for Clerics, so it's a bad spell. If you can spare the skill points, take some UMD and use gear to boost it high enough to use TP scrolls. It's a lot more reliable.

Clerics have barely enough skill points for our four basic food groups (heal, conc, spellcraft, and just 1 lore choice) Choosing more skills than that means we've either left cleric behind, or have hamstrung ourselves somewhere else. So our best option is to not go about it like a cleric, and instead act like a rogue or other UMD class?
Why hasn't it been approved for change to concentration? Is it because it limits the power of teleport domained clerics? I could understand that I guess.
It just seems like a wasted spell as it is. Why would I ruin the rest of my toon's skill set (ie give up epic spells or use of heal kits, etc) so I can port somewhere. (though as a prayer, I would be of the opinion the spell should be easily accessible, not to mention with so few skill points how much am I going to fail on this check no matter what I do)

Anyone shed light on this?

[Valefort]

I took a quick look at the script and it works like teleport except it's indeed associated to search skill (total score, not only ranks) and has +19 on its DC.

It also takes concentration into account, -9 on the DC if you have above 55 concentration, -8 if you have above 50, etc

-6 to DC if you have epic spell focus illusion, -4 for greater, -2 for simple.

-4 to DC if you have the non-detection spell active.

All I can see for now, the +19 on the DC is likely the culprit for mirrorwalk being hard.

[RamenKing]

I took a quick look at the script and it works like teleport except it's indeed associated to search skill (total score, not only ranks) and has +19 on its DC.

It also takes concentration into account, -9 on the DC if you have above 55 concentration, -8 if you have above 50, etc

-6 to DC if you have epic spell focus illusion, -4 for greater, -2 for simple.

-4 to DC if you have the non-detection spell active.

All I can see for now, the +19 on the DC is likely the culprit for mirrorwalk being hard.

Curious, is the -19 supposed to represent difficulty?

Curious as to why illusion spell focus counts towards lowering the check, but it's a transmutation spell. (According to the wiki)

[Valefort]

It's transmutation in pnp as well, as for the questions .. 1. Yes, I guess ? 2. It was probably used to represent your ability to see through the illusions of the plane of mirrors.

Rasael would be able to answer as he coded it