Earth Genasi, AC Barbarian with 17/- DR

[Vogar Eol]

http://nwn2db.com/build/?263095

Any improvements you can think of that would not hurt the defenses of this Barbarian?

It should be noted that due to BGTSCC changes, there is a bonus feat at Barbarian level 10 and 20. This build takes Greater Resiliency and Armor Skin at those bonus feats, but they are not shown on the chart. Barbarian also gains +2 Dodge AC at level 20, which doesn't currently work in Jegs.

Tried it out in Jegs and it really seemed to do well against creatures comparable to what we have on the server. It was able to kill 3 Adult Black Dragons (CR 19-20) before the first rage wore off. It also took out the Balor + 3 succubus before one Rage ran down, but damage output was low vs the 15/- of the Balor. This was using +4 AC items, and a +4 Scimitar in Jegs.

[AC81]

The monsters in JEGS seem much easier than those in BG, especially boss style ones. I don't think this guy is beating the balor in BG.

[Calodan]

The drow or the killer bunny. If you can kill that then it is a good build. 3 balor lords means you can kill the frost king....maybe........

[Vogar Eol]

I think both of you completely missed the forest for the trees.

The question was not what this would solo in BGTSCC. It's also obvious that Jeg's isn't our server.

The question was how the given class split and AC / DR build could be improved without lowering its defenses.

[Akroma666]

The question was how the given class split and AC / DR build could be improved without lowering its defenses.

Needs more cowbell..

[7threalm]

doesn't anoited get tumble? space your anointed levels out and save skill points and max tumble when you reach them

like 7 - 15 - 20 -30

that could save you able learner

I got 20 barb / 5 frez/ 5 rager

you need the dmg or they will eat you up, power attack + improved power

20 barb/ 5 fren / 5 anoit?

you can still get the same dmg out put with the dr

[AC81]

I think both of you completely missed the forest for the trees.

I hate forests ... and trees ... and also elves.

[Valefort]

The lack of extend rage feats is a concern, a lot of AC comes from it and since your un-rage AC is at 52 (ie very high) I would drop non-epic AC feats and take the extend rage line of feats to be overall more tanky.

[Vogar Eol]

Is it worth going for the extend Rage feats? BG noble district has a decent enough amulet that gives more Rage uses as well as extend 1. Not the best, but it is two feats on one item.

[Vogar Eol]

Seriously though, AC81, I'd like the input of yourself and other creative builders. Elf-haters are also welcome.

1. Is there a better 4 level dip than AK? AK grants Blindfight, Toughness, Tumble, Spellcraft, and Heal, as well as improving Will by 4.

2. With Able Learner, this almost has too many skill points. Should Able Learner be dropped, and AK levels spaced out? Should the Int be dropped, and Dex raised?

4. If the Int is dropped and Dex raised, Mithral Plate becomes an option. Would that be a better idea than using two feats on Armor Optimization? +4 Fullplates are moderately cheap and common.

5. This build could easily take Fast Healing. Expose Weakness seems better, autohit and all that?

6. Extend Rage feats, or use the amulet?

[chad878262]

AK is Strong choice, I'd argue you lose nothing by going to AK 10 after hitting barbarian 20. In fact you gain an epic feat, some extra damage and more will saves. Basically you lose barbarian feat at 24 and a couple DR, but gain bonus feats at AK9/10. The extra feat could give you fast healing 1 or thundering rage, for instance.

I also agree that more extended rages are key. This is one argument for going barbarian 10/DC10 or fighter 10, the bonus feats make it easier to get extended rage feats.

[Vogar Eol]

Just how much duration do you feel a Barbarian needs on a single Rage? Or maybe a better question is, "How much time per rest should a Barbarian be able to Rage?"

[dzidek1983]

30 minutes of complete rage time is ok imho. Between rest. At lvl 30 that is.

[AC81]

I love Anointed Knight. Outside of specialist builds, I think it is almost a must-pick for melees on this server. Others think it is weak (don't know how???). So yeah, if you must dip, go AK.

[AlfarinIcebreaker]

I would advise rage duration which follows rest timer. So, at level 30 22 minutes of Rage.

About the build, I would go either 30 Barbarian or 20 Barbarian/10 AK. With 30 Barbarian and Primal Rage amulet in additon to 24 CON you wouldn't need to pick Extra/Extended feats.