Build challange: grey orc cleric evil

[aaron22]

evil genius is good. unless the prc he is making is some sort of snowflake wizard/thief/bard lawful good orc only prc

[Bad Omens]

ok so wondering what would you guys think for a cleric build using full orc. EDM is possible. i have a couple builds that get it, but its alot of sacrificing. and yes. has to be Orc. i do want 28 or better CL.

also what her to be able to be RP'd prototypical orc. no snowflakeyness.

I hate to sound negative but EDM and Orc does not seem to be prototypical at all. Orcs are not known for being very charismatic, nor attractive.

Now, Stormlord is in play though, being that Talos is actually an aspect of Gruumsh.

[aaron22]

My opinion was for simply a cleric build built on a full orc. Being as most clerical builds are either Edm gish style or Wis Caster style. I was asking for some feedback. I too do not think a high cha build is practical or something I even want to pursue. But melee combat and high strength are something that is endearing in the society. High wisdom would be a close second. So with that an orc that gains incredable strength through Divine means is not obsurd. Especially if that strength brought foes to thier knees.

So an Edm orc IS A SNOWFLAKE. it is not an outcast or ridiculous. Just rare. Very very rare. And rightfully so.

A full orc bard. I could make an AWESOME str bard with an orc. But that is ridiculous. And I'm not doing it. *to the voices in my head* stop asking.

[Sun Wukong]

You could just go for a strength/wis based cleric though, your racial bonuses kind of allow you to get high starting stats in both, 18. You can leave one of them at that and just raise the other. Then you just Get 5 levels of Frenzied Berserker and 10 levels of Hierophant and you can have caster level 32, or just 30.

Was this mentioned already? If so, sorry, if not, well - it beats a bard.

[Valefort]

Dust settled for the Orc PRC, here is what I'll try to do, it may change after testing but that will be the basis for the PRC :

Orc War Drummer

While Orcs have no bardic tradition nothing whips them into a frenzy more easily than War Drummers. Using everything from elaborate drums to hollow trees the War Drummers can often be found in large orcish war parties.

Requirements:
Race: Orc
Alignment: Any non-lawful, non-good.
Skills: Perfom 6 ranks
Base Attack Bonus: +5
Feats: Iron will, Skill Focus : Perform

Class Features:
Hit Die: d8
Base Attack Bonus: High
High Saves: Will
Weapon Proficiencies: None
Armor Proficiencies: None
Skill Points: 4 + Int Modifier.
Class Skills: Perform, Listen, Intimidate, Taunt, Survival, Tumble


Class Abilities:
Level 1: Battle rythm +1
Level 2:
Level 3: Inspire fear
Level 4: Orders to Charge
Level 5: Orc War March, Battle rythm +2

Battle rythm: A war drummer inspires his fellow Orcs into a frenzy (including himself), bolstering them against fear and improving their combat abilities. This gives a bonus to hit and damage. It starts at +1, and becomes +2 at 5th level. It does not stack with bard inspire courage or dread pirate inspire courage.

Inspire fear: Instead of encouraging his brethren an Orc War Drummer of 3rd level can choose to play ominous, demoralizing rythms. Enemies of the War Drummer must pass a save vs fear or suffer a -2 penalty to hit, damage and saves. DC is 15 + War drummer levels + perform ranks/3.

Orders to Charge: At 4th level a War Drummer is able to signal the charge in a particularly enthralling way. The nearby allies gain +30% movement speed, +1 dodge AC, as well as the benefits from Furious Charger and Powerful Charge. If the War Drummer has Barbarian or Frenzied Berserker levels his allies also gain strength bonuses equal to half the bonuses of the War Drummer rage or frenzy.

The bonuses last for 10 rounds, cooldown : 4 minutes.

Orc War March: At 5th level an Orcish War Drummer, through skill and habit, is able to inspire fear in his enemies while playing a Battle Rythm.

[Steve]

You really can't go wrong with a sky high WIS Cleric / Thaumaturge / Hierophant / Dragonslayer. You could forgo Dragonslayer for Divine Champion or any other dip to give your Orc some perk, like Evasion.

[K'yon Oblodra]

Dust settled for the Orc PRC, here is what I'll try to do, it may change after testing but that will be the basis for the PRC :

Orc War Drummer

While Orcs have no bardic tradition nothing whips them into a frenzy more easily than War Drummers. Using everything from elaborate drums to hollow trees the War Drummers can often be found in large orcish war parties.

Requirements:
Race: Orc
Alignment: Any non-lawful, non-good.
Skills: Perfom 6 ranks
Base Attack Bonus: +5
Feats: Iron will, Skill Focus : Perform

Class Features:
Hit Die: d8
Base Attack Bonus: High
High Saves: Will
Weapon Proficiencies: None
Armor Proficiencies: None
Skill Points: 4 + Int Modifier.
Class Skills: Perform, Listen, Intimidate, Taunt, Survival, Tumble


Class Abilities:
Level 1: Battle rythm +1
Level 2:
Level 3: Inspire fear
Level 4: Orders to Charge
Level 5: Orc War March, Battle rythm +2

Battle rythm: A war drummer inspires his fellow Orcs into a frenzy (including himself), bolstering them against fear and improving their combat abilities. This gives a bonus to hit and damage. It starts at +1, and becomes +2 at 5th level. It does not stack with bard inspire courage or dread pirate inspire courage.

Inspire fear: Instead of encouraging his brethren an Orc War Drummer of 3rd level can choose to play ominous, demoralizing rythms. Enemies of the War Drummer must pass a save vs fear or suffer a -2 penalty to hit, damage and saves. DC is 15 + War drummer levels + perform ranks/3.

Orders to Charge: At 4th level a War Drummer is able to signal the charge in a particularly enthralling way. The nearby allies gain +30% movement speed, +1 dodge AC, as well as the benefits from Furious Charger and Powerful Charge. If the War Drummer has Barbarian or Frenzied Berserker levels his allies also gain strength bonuses equal to half the bonuses of the War Drummer rage or frenzy.

The bonuses last for 10 rounds, cooldown : 4 minutes.

Orc War March: At 5th level an Orcish War Drummer, through skill and habit, is able to inspire fear in his enemies while playing a Battle Rythm.

Looks interesting, inspiring to play a real orc warband

[Sun Wukong]

Dust settled for the Orc PRC, here is what I'll try to do, it may change after testing but that will be the basis for the PRC :

Orc War Drummer

While Orcs have no bardic tradition nothing whips them into a frenzy more easily than War Drummers. Using everything from elaborate drums to hollow trees the War Drummers can often be found in large orcish war parties.

Requirements:
Race: Orc
Alignment: Any non-lawful, non-good.
Skills: Perfom 6 ranks
Base Attack Bonus: +5
Feats: Iron will, Skill Focus : Perform

Class Features:
Hit Die: d8
Base Attack Bonus: High
High Saves: Will
Weapon Proficiencies: None
Armor Proficiencies: None
Skill Points: 4 + Int Modifier.
Class Skills: Perform, Listen, Intimidate, Taunt, Survival, Tumble


Class Abilities:
Level 1: Battle rythm +1
Level 2:
Level 3: Inspire fear
Level 4: Orders to Charge
Level 5: Orc War March, Battle rythm +2

Battle rythm: A war drummer inspires his fellow Orcs into a frenzy (including himself), bolstering them against fear and improving their combat abilities. This gives a bonus to hit and damage. It starts at +1, and becomes +2 at 5th level. It does not stack with bard inspire courage or dread pirate inspire courage.

Inspire fear: Instead of encouraging his brethren an Orc War Drummer of 3rd level can choose to play ominous, demoralizing rythms. Enemies of the War Drummer must pass a save vs fear or suffer a -2 penalty to hit, damage and saves. DC is 15 + War drummer levels + perform ranks/3.

Orders to Charge: At 4th level a War Drummer is able to signal the charge in a particularly enthralling way. The nearby allies gain +30% movement speed, +1 dodge AC, as well as the benefits from Furious Charger and Powerful Charge. If the War Drummer has Barbarian or Frenzied Berserker levels his allies also gain strength bonuses equal to half the bonuses of the War Drummer rage or frenzy.

The bonuses last for 10 rounds, cooldown : 4 minutes.

Orc War March: At 5th level an Orcish War Drummer, through skill and habit, is able to inspire fear in his enemies while playing a Battle Rythm.

Why does that remind me of drunk IRC talks... with you... oh why...

[Valefort]

In vino veritas

[aaron22]

http://nwn2db.com/build/?265506

[Valefort]

Inspire courage won't stack and there's no spellcasting progression so ? That would be quite a gimp compared to a normal bard.

[chad878262]

You don't think bard orcs were discussed in qc? :p

The class offers a interesting build path for orcs, but has no synergy with bard or dread pirate. If someone wants to build an op STR orc bard they're still welcome to as there is no rule in place. However this is a more lore appropriate option.

[dedude]

You don't think bard orcs were discussed in qc? :p

[aaron22]

yep this one is way better.

http://nwn2db.com/build/?265506

having trouble making a good build with you little drummer boy. let me try again

[aaron22]

Inspire courage won't stack and there's no spellcasting progression so ? That would be quite a gimp compared to a normal bard.

well, i could be running regen song or ac song. take out the 4 levels of WoD and would have a still good enough CL so i am not dispelled as easily.