Build combining Wizard/Fighter/ASoC/EK/AM

[K'yon Oblodra]

Hey guys,

I've got a character that I really haven't put much thought into in terms of building and he is mainly inspired by RP build wise.

Now I started him as fighter(1) and got only arcane caster levels after that wizard(5)/ASoC(2).

Now I am thinking about taking 10 Archmage levels for the arcane fire feat because it feels cool RPwise but of course it would be cool if it wasn't completely useless so let me know what you think.

Then I considered taking 5 levels of EK with the final 3 levels of fighter that should give me 2 extra attacks if I am not mistaken.

And lastly I'd take ASoC to 7 I guess as that would be left over.

So F(3)/W(5)/ASoC(7)/EK(5)/AM(10)

Let me know what you guys think.

Honestly I am not sure which high arcana feats to take besides the one already mentioned

[AC81]

I think you're picking 5 classes when 4 is the limit. Don't think the DM's will be onboard with it.

[K'yon Oblodra]

Oh... Guess I never did that before so I kind of overlooked that part of the rules .

Do you have an opinion or knowledge about that arcane fire feat?

Suppose the EK would have to go turning this into a F3/W7/ASoC10/AM10 build.

Also something I was wondering about was dispelling of buffs will I be subject to that pretty much until I hit level 30 in terms of caster levels of are there certain ranges in which on will only be dispelled by the more powerful dispels like the greater version, or the one that's at least not the lesser dispel?

[AC81]

Well, if you turn it into a caster build I would question the use of Fighter 3. I'm assuming you want an armoured caster? If that's the case, I'd probably try for a charisma-based paladin/blackguard/cleric to pick up heavy armour proficiency and then abuse turn undead to jack your saves and AC (with divine shield). If you want more of a gish type wizard - one who actually can melee and sling the odd spell or two, I'd build a bladesinger. I just love the lore behind them. Be careful to RP correctly though, those Bladesingers are a tough bunch! (suggested Bladesinger build: W10/BS10/EK10).

Edit: If you want F/W/ASoC/AM, best to go F4/W6/ASoC10/AM10. 1 more AB, still will get 30+ CL and gains the extra F4 feat.

[K'yon Oblodra]

Well, if you turn it into a caster build I would question the use of Fighter 3. I'm assuming you want an armoured caster? If that's the case, I'd probably try for a charisma-based paladin/blackguard/cleric to pick up heavy armour proficiency and then abuse turn undead to jack your saves and AC (with divine shield). If you want more of a gish type wizard - one who actually can melee and sling the odd spell or two, I'd build a bladesinger. I just love the lore behind them. Be careful to RP correctly though, those Bladesingers are a tough bunch! (suggested Bladesinger build: W10/BS10/EK10).

Will it is an existing character so the divine path won't happen but thanks for the input. Regarding Bladesinger... Would that even be possible for a drow (didn't mention it before I know;)

Edit: If you want F/W/ASoC/AM, best to go F4/W6/ASoC10/AM10. 1 more AB, still will get 30+ CL and gains the extra F4 feat.

That could be a good idea, guess the only reason speaking against that would be the limitid amount of spells one has as wizard especially as AM.

If anyone still has some advice on which AM feats to use please let me know

[AC81]

The Drow version of Bladesinger is the Deathsinger. It's definitely what I'd be building if I was going to build a drow fighter/mage. Wiz10/DS10/EK10, I'd max intelligence at 26 base, then get a +4 intelligence item. Put the rest into dexterity, should finish at around 22-24 with a +3 item.

[K'yon Oblodra]

Deathsinger looks very interesting although I am not looking to create a complete gish the character is supposed to be able in both disciplines fighting and casting but with a clear priority on casting. Also I need to check with my school of magic (necromancy) if Deathsinger would count for advancing in their ranks. If that won't be the case is sadly it of the question.

[Zanniej]

Oh... Guess I never did that before so I kind of overlooked that part of the rules .

It's not a server rule, it's a NWN2 rule As such, it's not documented here.

I must admit, I don't know why there is a maximum of allowed classes in one build

[Sun Wukong]

Deathsinger looks very interesting although I am not looking to create a complete gish the character is supposed to be able in both disciplines fighting and casting but with a clear priority on casting. Also I need to check with my school of magic (necromancy) if Deathsinger would count for advancing in their ranks. If that won't be the case is sadly it of the question.

I think it would be strange if it didn't... But as for that build for Drow, why not go for a Wizard 6/Bloodmagus 4/Deathsinger 10/Eldritch Knight 10, to get BAB of 25 with that caster level of 30? You would also gain the scars and blood draughts, things that let you have more spells per day if you are willing to fork the gold.

Honestly, the more I think about it, I think Wizard 6/Bloodmagus 4/Deathsinger 10/Eldritch Knight 10 is the way to go. It is just one of those builds that kind gets to have it all.

And yeah, you just need to go for high Intelligence and get Combat Insight with longsword to do '1.5' * Int Mod damage with every strike. (And have a bit of strength for base AB and carrying capacity.)


But if that school of necromancy says no to that, and I still don't see why, well have a look for this build for some inspiration: http://nwn2db.com/build/?149519 It can cast in fullplate and not care about being silenced. (The automatic silent spell feats could be just swapped away for soemthing else to be honest.)

[K'yon Oblodra]

Hey comments,

thanks for the hint. My character is actually very keen on his looks and would hate scars and the constant pricking of blood magic would not be to his liking I know I am being mean and vague with what I ask and tell beforehand.

Combat Insight sounds very interesting, I'll look into that.

Edit: none of you step onto the Archmage territory... Is it so bad none has experience with it?

[Sun Wukong]

Edit: none of you step onto the Archmage territory... Is it so bad none has experience with it?

Archmage is more of a Sorcerer PRC currently. You know, it is bit of a trouble to manage which spell slot is used to power up your abilities... And the High Arcana Feats tend to enhance a Sorcerer more. You know, a build like Sorcerer 6/Divine Champion 4/Arcane Scholar 10/Archmage 10 can get Automatic: Quicken Spell III. It works nice with Lesser Orbs, and you can just change the elemental damage type thanks to Mastery of Elements, and Mastery of Shaping allows you to spam spells in a party and reapply buffs when needed. Not to mention how those spell like abilities allow you to expand your selection of spells that you can cast. (At least you used to be able to pick spell like abilities of spells you didn't have.)

[Sun Wukong]

My character is actually very keen on his looks and would hate scars and the constant pricking of blood magic would not be to his liking I know I am being mean and vague with what I ask and tell beforehand.

Decorative scars are a thing in the real world, and have appeared in many human cultures in history, so the concept of using scars to enhance looks is not that alien, especially for a drow. You could find some examples with some imagine search, I believe. The other alternative is to treat the scars as bit of a shame, cover them up with a sleeve, and be increasingly reluctant to use them unless the need is very dire. Or you know, you are not actually forced to make those scars or use them, even though your character knows how to.

The same goes for blood magic, you are not forced to use it unless you really need it.

And lets face it, what is a drow without some secrets?

[K'yon Oblodra]

Edit: none of you step onto the Archmage territory... Is it so bad none has experience with it?

Archmage is more of a Sorcerer PRC currently. You know, it is bit of a trouble to manage which spell slot is used to power up your abilities... And the High Arcana Feats tend to enhance a Sorcerer more. You know, a build like Sorcerer 6/Divine Champion 4/Arcane Scholar 10/Archmage 10 can get Automatic: Quicken Spell III. It works nice with Lesser Orbs, and you can just change the elemental damage type thanks to Mastery of Elements, and Mastery of Shaping allows you to spam spells in a party and reapply buffs when needed. Not to mention how those spell like abilities allow you to expand your selection of spells that you can cast. (At least you used to be able to pick spell like abilities of spells you didn't have.)

Do these abilities take away spell slots on rest or permanently on leveling.. Having a hard time to understand it to be honest.

K'yon is very proud of his unscarred skin, I might even turn any kind of scarring into an event possibly even a fued if anyone should cause such a thing to happen.

[Sun Wukong]

On rest, or when activated, so basically you have less spells to cast.

[K'yon Oblodra]

Mmh thinking about F3-4/W7-6/ASoC10/DS10

But then my caster levels are below 30 will that mean I'll get dispelled a lot?