Build combining Wizard/Fighter/ASoC/EK/AM

[Sun Wukong]

You can get a feat called Practised Spellcaster (Wizard), it will mean that the 3-4 levels of fighter you plan to take will be counted towards your caster level. Thus the build you wrote down, will have caster level of 30 at level 30. Possibly higher you take the Archmage Spellpower feats. (33, if you take all three, 32 already nets you +1 spell DC.)

As for whether you will be dispelled, there are areas with no dispel mobs. But yeah... it is recommended to aim for 25+ caster level. Preferably 30!

[K'yon Oblodra]

Mmh thinking about F3-4/W7-6/ASoC10/DS10

But then my caster levels are below 30 will that mean I'll get dispelled a lot?

This would not have Archmage but deathsinger which only has 6/10 spell progression

[Sun Wukong]

I really need to get that Blindfight feat in game, since I am blind on the forums aswell!

You would have caster level of 26-27, depending on how many fighter levels you take. So if we take that caster level of 26 and pit it against caster level '20' Greater Dispel, each of your buffs have about 20% chance to be dispelled. Thus you can survive a single dispel casting foe, but if you encounter several in short order you will be dispelled.

Thus you migth be better off with something like a Wizard 7/Dragon Slayer 3/Arcane Scholar 10/Deathsinger 10. You get the same armor proficiencies as a fighter does, but your caster level is 29, which means that the above dispell has only 5% chance to dispel any single spell.

[K'yon Oblodra]

Blindfight only gives you another roll you might still miss something important in the forums .

I'll RCR K'yon and will probably just skip the fighter...

Still not entirely sure what the build will look like in the end but I'll get Deathsinger to 10 for sure probably ASoC as well. Not sure if I take EK into it or not. Archmage I'll probably skip... But I really liked the idea of the arcane fire ...

[Sun Wukong]

Well, Northlander Hewing is a feat possibility if you want to go for a strength based gish that makes use of 'no save spells' or where the save does not really matter.

Anyhow, Northlander Hewing does give you extra damage based on your strength modifier and weapon enchantment bonus by halfing your attacks. It might still be worth it on a high intelligence build... Maybe.. Well, 1d8 becomes 8, and you get another +5 damage from greater magic weapon... and + whatever you have in strength modifier... If base 14 strength, buffed to 18 with Bulls, +4... So... +12~~ damage in total. Not to mention that as something like...

Wizard 10/Deathsinger 10/Arcane Scholar 10 you get BAB of 20, so 4 attacks, and 5 with haste. You might just as well go for NH to get 2 attacks and 3 with haste just for that +12~ bonus damage per hit.

With intelligence mod of 10: 8 (Longsword) + 15 (Int modifier) + 5 (EB) + 9 (NH) = 37~ damage a hit. It is not that bad actually. You will hit 17 damage on anything with that DR of 20/-. And whatever is added on top of that longsword.

Just get Blindfight, (Deathsinger bonus feat)

I know it just might be me, but... Wizard 5/Arcane Scholar 5/Frostmage 10/Deathsinger 10... could be something to consider as well. You will lack improved Quicken and Maximise, but as Frost Mage you only really want those Improved Empowered Polar Rays!

[K'yon Oblodra]

Thanks for the hints... You know what's hilarious?

I almost always find you posting about northlander hewing . Totally your favorite feat!

I'll have to see what I really wanna do with this character but important for me is the RP.

Deathsinger seems to be the perfect fit for him.

Acane Scholar I have to say is a class anyone trying to master the arcane arts should have at least a few levels in. The study of meta-magic just seems to be studying the essence of it all.

Pale Master would of course fit cause K'yon is part of the School of Necromancy but it doesn't fit his sense of beauty... Might do that as plot twist at some point though...

[Sun Wukong]

I almost always find you posting about northlander hewing . Totally your favorite feat!

It kind of is, and well, it is a new feat that creates many new interesting possibilites. So... It kind of deserves a little drum up every now and then.

It is kind of like how the Reserve feats and Arcane Tricksters were back in the day... You know, mechanically you are still kind of better off with a simple blaster Warlock damage-wise, but you could have something of a similar effect with Reserve Feats and Arcane Tricksters... Or just blast those Reserve feats in events to do something little to contribute. Not a bad thing if you can spare the feat and single spell slot.

[7threalm]

does northhander 5 attack + haste = 3 attacks?

[Sun Wukong]

does northhander 5 attack + haste = 3 attacks?

That is how it should work, based on a previous description with Valefort in a topic not too many rows below this one. Thus... You could make a Gish using Northlander Hewing without needing to get that 21 BAB.

[Marathados]

does northhander 5 attack + haste = 3 attacks?

That is how it should work, based on a previous description with Valefort in a topic not too many rows below this one. Thus... You could make a Gish using Northlander Hewing without needing to get that 21 BAB.

I really am not sure. With my current bab of 13 or so, I do get three attacks with haste...

And I would like it, if one would get at 21 bab four attacks with haste... Hardly overpowered?

[Sun Wukong]

I really am not sure. With my current bab of 13 or so, I do get three attacks with haste...

And I would like it, if one would get at 21 bab four attacks with haste... Hardly overpowered?

And at BAB of 25 I only got 2 attacks instead of three. It could be that you are at a bugged BAB point where you do not get an attack taken away from NH. How many attacks do you get without haste?

[Marathados]

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[K'yon Oblodra]

Wanted to ask about Archmage some more... The high arcana feats offer an increase of spellpower or caster levels is there really much benefit to it?

I've read descriptions about caster levels increasing DC somehow but I have no idea why and how that would work.

The arcane fire feat looks cool, the one that changes the damage type looks interesting, the one that keeps allies from being hurt seems to be a bit buggy and limited in use, the spell like ability ones look very good again...

My conclusion would be to avoid the spellpower ones take arcane fire the element thingy and the rest for spell like abilities....

Thoughts?

Also changed my build to Wizard/Eldritch Knight and then I am considering combinations of Archmage, Arcane Scholar and Shadow Adept but can't quiet decide yet...

[Hawke]

AM spellpower arcana raises the CL +1.

What that means is going beyond CL 30 or bringing your CL up high enough to reach another DC point.

After getting to 20, every 3 levels raises the DC of your spell by 1. This is why on the builder you see a +3 for epic caster at a CL of 29-31.

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This is also why Practiced Spellcaster bug was squashed. 1 feat could net you +2DC to your spells.

So if you have a CL 28 on your caster... and you get spellpower +1... that gives you a CL29 and +1 DC because you hit 29.

Hope that helps.

[Steve]

Wanted to ask about Archmage some more... The high arcana feats offer an increase of spellpower or caster levels is there really much benefit to it?

There is a yuuuge benefit in getting any gish to CL 30, in that you effectively are undispellable. But, like all casters, there is always Mord's to make you wet your pants.