I am not sure if we would allow this or not, but nothing will be done at all until/unless the DM's grant their approval. Whether or not we make Smite effect anything (even things that are 'unaligned') would be something to discuss mechanically. However, as I said, if the DM's do not approve of Paladins that can smite good guys and are immune to falling after they have smote said good guys...there is really no reason to have the discussion of introducing the PRC.Argumantive wrote:Also mechanic wise, As I recall smite infidel in your scenario will give 4 bonus dmg, on a 20 pally/10 GG, it will be full smite progression vs any alignment.
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Sure thing, this is why I posted it for discussion with the source 
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This is interesting though.
In PnP this is easily accomplished - your grey guard paladin performs any dishonourable acts in front of a DM so the Sacrament of Trust can be observed. Here, I suspect this may lead to extra pressure on the DMs with screenshots showing how your grey guard didn't do X thing or Y, and the attendant drama that entails.Sacrament of Trust: Upon entering this prestige class, you take a vow of allegiance to your faith beyond that of any ordinary paladin. This vow grants you a measure of freedom to act on your cause’s behalf without fear of retribution should your duties require you to break your code of conduct. Dishonorable acts still cause you to lose both gray guard and paladin class features until you atone, but this infraction is considered much less severe than it would be for a paladin.
Thus, whenever you seek to atone for deeds that you willingly commit in the name of your faith but that break your code of conduct, a cleric casting an atonement spell on your behalf does not expend 500 XP as is normally required. This reprieve applies only to acts intended to
further the cause of righteousness and the gray guard’s faith. No XP cost applies to a gray guard atoning after beating a confession from a heretic, for example, but the cost would have to be paid for one who started a bar room brawl.
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I was mainly focusing on, and saying replace the initial feat with just +1 lvl of spellcasting:Vermilion wrote:This is interesting though.In PnP this is easily accomplished - your grey guard paladin performs any dishonourable acts in front of a DM so the Sacrament of Trust can be observed. Here, I suspect this may lead to extra pressure on the DMs with screenshots showing how your grey guard didn't do X thing or Y, and the attendant drama that entails.Sacrament of Trust: Upon entering this prestige class, you take a vow of allegiance to your faith beyond that of any ordinary paladin. This vow grants you a measure of freedom to act on your cause’s behalf without fear of retribution should your duties require you to break your code of conduct. Dishonorable acts still cause you to lose both gray guard and paladin class features until you atone, but this infraction is considered much less severe than it would be for a paladin.
Thus, whenever you seek to atone for deeds that you willingly commit in the name of your faith but that break your code of conduct, a cleric casting an atonement spell on your behalf does not expend 500 XP as is normally required. This reprieve applies only to acts intended to
further the cause of righteousness and the gray guard’s faith. No XP cost applies to a gray guard atoning after beating a confession from a heretic, for example, but the cost would have to be paid for one who started a bar room brawl.
Sacrament of the True Faith: At 10th level, you gain your order’s full confidence. You are granted the freedom to act on behalf of your faith as you deem necessary. Thus, you never risk losing your class abilities in the pursuit of a just cause and never need to atone for violating your code of conduct.
This trust does not grant you the freedom to act as violently or immorally as you wish, however. Release from your code of conduct depends on your acting as an exemplar of your order’s ideals. If you violate this trust by habitually acting in an immoral or corrupt manner, the leaders or deity of your faith might revoke their blessing and banish you from the ranks of the faithful (see Ex-Gray Guards, below).
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