str, dex or con for melee lock

spyvsspy · Unread post by **spyvsspy** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:21 pm

Epic dodge is good, but as a warlock I prefer to rise warlock lv to 18+ for both Retributive Invisibility and Dark Premonition. It will be a solid protective ward.

To talk about melee lock with sneak attack dice my initial response is Fient. Warlock can do this well from Beguiling Influence. So another option is str(dex)/cha based. Ever thought about Wl24/SToA3/Clr3 for both EDM and EW, plus the sneaker belt which offers Fient. But it's not implemented yet

Moltrazahn · Unread post by **Moltrazahn** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 5:49 pm

Don't remember its name. But get that feat which extends your flee from scene by 50%. Becaise it also dubbles the AB to you and your party.

That means you basically have permanently +2 ab, 1 ac and haste. Worth it for a melee lock.

Nyeleni · Unread post by **Nyeleni** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 6:28 pm

spyvsspy wrote:Epic dodge is good, but as a warlock I prefer to rise warlock lv to 18+ for both Retributive Invisibility and Dark Premonition. It will be a solid protective ward.

To talk about melee lock with sneak attack dice my initial response is Fient. Warlock can do this well from Beguiling Influence. So another option is str(dex)/cha based. Ever thought about Wl24/SToA3/Clr3 for both EDM and EW, plus the sneaker belt which offers Fient. But it's not implemented yet

Shadow Thief of Amn is replaced by name only with Guild Thief in BGTSCC?

chad878262 · Unread post by **chad878262** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 8:26 pm

Moltrazahn wrote:Don't remember its name. But get that feat which extends your flee from scene by 50%. Becaise it also dubbles the AB to you and your party.

That means you basically have permanently +2 ab, 1 ac and haste. Worth it for a melee lock.

Dark Transient.

aaron22 · Unread post by **aaron22** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 8:52 am

i have dark transient at 18 on the build and i hate playing fienters. plus with only 3 least invo's, beguil cannot be one of them.

http://nwn2db.com/build/?268930

aaron22 · Unread post by **aaron22** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:08 am

my idea for this is invis to get 4/6 attacks with 16d6 bonus dmg then epic dodge to invis again. repeat as needed.

could do this with rogue/sin or SD, but i like the "feel" of the lock providing some of this damage. coupled with the ability to pull from distance with spear.

in the build im not even sure i want to invest points into hide/ms. might be mobs out there that can see my invis, but if i go into sneak. not sure how that will all play out.

Dragonvisper · Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:17 am

well 10 levels of shadowdancer can also give yue epic dodge, whit gives yue 20 levels to get ab, and the 9d6 blast dices yue ned for eldrikt master on bgtc:)

aaron22 · Unread post by **aaron22** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:39 am

10 levels of SD would leave me unable to get PTWF and i would also loose a bunch of SA dice. it is a nice build, but not what i am feeling.

Moltrazahn · Unread post by **Moltrazahn** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 1:37 pm

Oh! And get umd high enough for greater heroism. Another +4 from scrolls! Can be bought at high hedge and lasts for round 10 min. Very decent ab buff.

aaron22 · Unread post by **aaron22** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 1:48 pm

should be >30 UMD and will have 14 at level 9. so yea. UMD will be there. i am just wondering if hide/ms will be a waste because i will primarily use invis to get my SA's.

chad878262 · Unread post by **chad878262** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 1:50 pm

what about enemies with blindsight, see invisibility or true sight?

aaron22 · Unread post by **aaron22** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 2:01 pm

are there lots of those.. i dont know never played a toon like this

chad878262 · Unread post by **chad878262** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 2:02 pm

In most area's it's random, though there are some caster mobs that will cast such spells as soon as you use invis.

aaron22 · Unread post by **aaron22** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 2:42 pm

chad878262 wrote:In most area's it's random, though there are some caster mobs that will cast such spells as soon as you use invis.

well i guess that is better than dispell cause those are gonna be a problem too.

aaron22 · Unread post by **aaron22** » Fri Jun 16, 2017 2:46 pm

if i see that being cast, will invis meet the req to transition into hide/ms?

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