Phantasmal Killer

[Lockonnow]

could this one Phantasmal Killer be made in to a epic spell so it will get higher DC

[Nachti]

You have Weird and Phantasmal killer, what do you need more?

[Lockonnow]

better spells and i need a better game was there anything else you wish to know Nachti ?

[Flasmix]

better spells and i need a better game was there anything else you wish to know Nachti ?

[ctothep]

Turning into an epic spell wouldnt give you much higher DCs anyway and you couldnt quicken it anymore which is where the spell really shines. As Nachti mentioned you have Weird which is pretty much an AoE phant killer at a much higher DC.

Istons phant killer had a DC of 37, his vamp feast had a DC of 39. Not that big of a difference.

[Lockonnow]

ctothep Weird is evil that is why i only ask about it Phantasmal Killer if it could be made in to a epic spell he could have give me satisfy answer but Nachti chose to give me cheeky replicat

[dedude]

Weird is no more evil than Phantasmal Killer.

[Lockonnow]

so it is first evil if it say evil from the magic school so i most have misunderstood look here http://nwn2.wikia.com/wiki/Weird abd then look at this http://nwn2.wikia.com/wiki/Create_Greater_Undead

[Valefort]

Weird does not have an "Evil" descriptor, it's not evil. It is however added to the spell list of the clerics who have the "Evil" domain, which can be confusing.

On the contrary Create Greater Undead has an "Evil" descriptor and thus is evil.

[Lockonnow]

yes true what you say Valefort but i still think it sould have a Evil" descriptor, couse it remind me of vampire feat it summon a evil monster how is the that couse thet both summon Image fear full monster shadow like the lvl 8 spell lure shadow demons that one is evil shadow demons (Image) right or are we talk about "undead shadow like demon " so they could be turn undead??

[ctothep]

It doesnt summon a monster mate

It creates an illusion of the victims greatest fear which scares it to death

[Lockonnow]

greatest fear like the movie Hellraiser they show you what you most fear and take a Image of IT

[aaron22]

[chad878262]

Lock, Phantasmal Killer does the exact same thing as Weird. So if you argue Weird is evil, you are also arguing Phantasmal Killer is evil. Weird is literally an AoE Phantasmal Killer as the descriptions and saves are identical.

[Lockonnow]

Is there a spell Call NIGHTMARE(Bad Dreams)