New Class Suggestions

[Karond]

Y'all just stop. We have way too much to do, much less think about, already.

Duster support class.

[Steve]

Duster support class.

Developer of the Tenth Circle

When others find limit with hidden knowledge of arcane and ancient games built by fallen empires, men and women of a certain calling find themselves stepping into a realm of hurt known to few but the most persistent and hardy...some say foolish.

Initiates to this Tenth Circle initially are drawn by the challenge and exhibit courage...but over time, are both lifted higher in demand and held to higher standards, by the power that they now create and oversee.

It is an achievement that is called both "demi-god" and "cursed soul...," but often not in the same breath.

Requirements:

Feats: Skill Focus: Courage. Skill Focus: Arcane Coding. Weapon Specialization: Good Humor.
Base Coding Bonus: +8
Alignment: Beyond alignment.
Skills: Craft Alchemic Coding 10, Lore: Bugzidian 10, Spellcraft 10.

Class Features:

- Hit Die: d2 (yeah, you're mortal)
- Base Attack Bonus: Low.
- High Saves: Reflex (for dodging complaints!).
- Weapon Proficiencies: All simple and martial keyboards.
- Armor Proficiencies: All types of anonymity and all types of private message forums.
- Skill Points: 100 + Int modifier (yeah, why not?!?).
- Class Skills: Concentration, Coding, Craft Beer, Diplomacy, Humor, Lore, Party, Spellcraft, Lore: Star Trek.

Class Abilities:

Level 1: Anoint Self (Create areas, NPCs and Quests)
Level 2: --
Level 3: Anointed Bugzidian Coding +1
Level 4: Anoint Self (Celestial Updates)
Level 5: --
Level 6: Anoint Self (Call to Head Developer)
Level 7: Unbroken Flesh (self-explanatory )
Level 8: --
Level 9: Bonus Feat (choose from Demi-god Sub set)
Level 10: Bonus Feat (choose from Epic Appreciation sub set), Anointed Bugzidian Coding +1d4

[Aeb Ankor]

Commoner class plz.

Commoner
Making a Commoner

Table: The Commoner

Hit Die: d4
Level Base
Attack Bonus Saving Throws
Fort Ref Will
1st +0 +0 +0 +0
2nd +1 +0 +0 +0
3rd +1 +1 +1 +1
4th +2 +1 +1 +1
5th +2 +1 +1 +1
6th +3 +2 +2 +2
7th +3 +2 +2 +2
8th +4 +2 +2 +2
9th +4 +3 +3 +3
10th +5 +3 +3 +3
11th +5 +3 +3 +3
12th +6/+1 +4 +4 +4
13th +6/+1 +4 +4 +4
14th +7/+2 +4 +4 +4
15th +7/+2 +5 +5 +5
16th +8/+3 +5 +5 +5
17th +8/+3 +5 +5 +5
18th +9/+4 +6 +6 +6
19th +9/+4 +6 +6 +6
20th +10/+5 +6 +6 +6

Class Skills (2 + Int modifier per level, ×4 at 1st level)
Climb (Str), Craft (Int), Handle Animal (Cha), Jump (Str), Listen (Wis), Profession (Wis), Ride (Dex), Spot (Wis), Swim (Str), Use Rope (Dex).

Weapon and Armor Proficiency: The commoner is proficient with one simple weapon. He is not proficient with any other weapons, nor is he proficient with any type of armor or shields.


Expert
Making a Expert

Table: The Expert

Hit Die: d6
Level Base
Attack Bonus Saving Throws
Fort Ref Will
1st +0 +0 +0 +2
2nd +1 +0 +0 +3
3rd +2 +1 +1 +3
4th +3 +1 +1 +4
5th +3 +1 +1 +4
6th +4 +2 +2 +5
7th +5 +2 +2 +5
8th +6/+1 +2 +2 +6
9th +6/+1 +3 +3 +6
10th +7/+2 +3 +3 +7
11th +8/+3 +3 +3 +7
12th +9/+4 +4 +4 +8
13th +9/+4 +4 +4 +8
14th +10/+5 +4 +4 +9
15th +11/+6/+1 +5 +5 +9
16th +12/+7/+2 +5 +5 +10
17th +12/+7/+2 +5 +5 +10
18th +13/+8/+3 +6 +6 +11
19th +14/+9/+4 +6 +6 +11
20th +15/+10/+5 +6 +6 +12

Class Skills (6 + Int modifier per level, ×4 at 1st level)
The expert can choose any ten skills to be class skills.

Weapon and Armor Proficiency: The expert is proficient in the use of all simple weapons and with light armor but not shields.

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I do think that a common/ expert class would be great and offer players the chance to play less heroic characters or feel more success from just RP or surviving a hostile encounter/ adventure.

Players can form marriage, love, friendship bonds with another player character that is an ordinary person. These people can do any sort of RP but are just not mechanically exceptional... these then ordinary PCs can be valuable tools for plot hooks and character stories, since they actually exist and can be interacted daily, protected, squires, laborers, assistants, cooks, scholars, kidnapped victim, etc.

Many of us here are interested in the stories and RP potential of character interactions and not just for using a mechanically advantage character build to defeat the Boss NPCs, right?

This is why we are here vs some giant online world with 1,000,000 other players that only care about Guild Boss Raids or ERP (Erotic Role Play) or playing some solo adventure game...

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I do think there should be a way to reduce the Stat points available to a commoner/ expert since just the base stats alone would make a person exceptional in multiple aspects.

Those that say 'Oh, just choose a low HD class and not use the spells, feats, or abilities...', but I say it just isn't enough since we are meant to play our character sheets, also if you have those spells/ feats/ abilities then the character is not nearly at the same level of risk as NOT having those to fall back on.

Plus: All the base classes have passive abilities or advantage that can't be turned off...

Wizard have magical familiars and default spells you can't unlearn
Sorcerer have innate magical power that gives them default spells
Rogue has SA and other abilities that are always on.
Fighter has X2 the base commoner HD and full BAB
Etc, etc, etc

[Aeb Ankor]

Please add a commoner/ expert class

[Valefort]

Why not, regarding the ability scores it is something else though. I don't think the amount of points can be tweaked, I could make feats giving a penalty to ability points though, that way you can customize your weaknesses more easily.

[Aeb Ankor]

http://nwn2db.com/build/?268981

Too exceptional by far.

Yes, would need to have feats that reduce stat levels at level one since there are far far too many. Maybe base 5 or 6 at most, where if someone plowed all stat points into a single stat it still would be only average for normal character types.

If done, this would be great!

[Valefort]

I'll make feats to get -8 to one ability then, if you go 10 everywhere and 18 in one you should have 6 points remaining, so you could have something like 14/12/10/10/10.

Is that good enough ?

[Aeb Ankor]

I think having the ability to take stats at low levels would be good, Range 5 to 7, representing an individual that is significantly below average in some area.

Would it be possible for ability feats that might reflect: (These are just quick examples)

Old age: -Str -Con
Ancient: -Str -Dex -Con -Int -Wis -Move Speed
Senile: -Wis or -Int
Clumsy: -Dex and or Melee Skills
Ugly: -Social Skills
Disfigured: -Social Skills
Sickly: -Con
Obese: -Move Speed -Con (more fat clothes and armors!)
Crippled: - Move Speed -Dex
One Arm/Hand Use: Weapon or Shield but not both
Poor Vision: -Ranged combat
Diseased: Various
etc.
etc.
etc.

There can be a range of feats that create background, RP experiences, or non-beneficial traits that could be taken by any character or prescribed by a DM... who says that all feats MUST be positive bonus to a character?!?

If a feat description is interesting and general in nature any player could add it for flavor and personal story for more immersion.

In 'real' Forgotten Realms - Toril - Faerûn most people in the world have no access to magic or faith healing, protections or restorations... they limp, they lose an arm, they get kicked in head milking a cow, they get sick (a lot), they have skin conditions, they suffer from mental ills or trauma, they are stupid; poor health; low faith; low will, etc., etc., etc.

[Aeb Ankor]

On the idea of continued RP traits feat, is there a way so that resurrection and greater restoration cannot be cast on an individual or be blocked by a feat? In effect making them permanent, incurable, 'cursed by the gods', not worth a healer's limited god favor to cure, or not acceptable by a god of opposing faith...

[Valefort]

While this is doable I'd rather you ask the DM team for such things as incurable ailments, there would certainly be an important IC reason for that after all.

[Moridin]

Well, I personally think that the Arachnomancer PRC should be added to the server. *shrugs*

[Aeb Ankor]

Add commoner/expert class

Why not, regarding the ability scores it is something else though. I don't think the amount of points can be tweaked, I could make feats giving a penalty to ability points though, that way you can customize your weaknesses more easily.

Is this going to be added soon, had several players ask me, if I'd heard any date on an update...

[Valefort]

It's not forgotten, no ETA though.

[Aeb Ankor]

Thx for keeping on it. I (and it seems others) have interest in playing a common or less than heroic character.

[taintedseraphim]

Songmaiden of Selune

http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Songmaiden ... e_Class%29

Requirements

To qualify to become a Songmaiden of Selune, a character must fulfill all the following criteria:
Deity: Selune
Alignment: Chaotic Good
Gender: Female
Skills: Concentration 6, Knowledge (religion) 10, Perform (any two musical) 10, Speak Language (Celestial), Spellcraft 6
Spells: Must be able to cast 2nd level divine spells
Abilities: Bardic music ability

Hit Die: d6Table: The Songmaiden of Selune

Class Skills (4 + Int modifier per level)
Bluff, Concentration, Craft, Decipher Script, Diplomacy, Heal, Knowledge (arcana), Knowledge (history), Knowledge (local), Knowledge (religion), Knowledge (the planes), Perform, Profession, Sense Motive, Speak Language, Spellcraft, Use Magic Device
Class Features[edit]

Proficiencies: The Songmaiden gains no additional weapon or armor proficiencies.
Bardic Music: A Songmaiden of Selune adds her class level to her bard level for determining how often she can use her bardic abilities. In addition, her Songmaiden levels stack with her bard levels for determining the bonus granted by the inspire courage song. Songmaidens do not gain any new songs from the standard bard list in this manner; to obtain those songs, the Songmaiden must gain standard bard levels.

Spells per Day / Spells Known: A Songmaiden of Selune’s caster level is equivalent to her Songmaiden class level plus her base divine spellcasting class level. Only one base class can be used in this manner; the Songmaiden must choose this class when taking the first level of this prestige class. The Songmaiden’s spells per day and spells known, however, are derived from the Songmaiden list; she gains no additional spells from her base class. As with the divine bard, the Songmaiden must have a Wis score of 10 + the spell level in order to be able to cast the spell; however, her Charisma modifier is used for determining spell DC. The Songmaiden can exchange spells known as can the bard; she adds her Songmaiden level to her bardic level to determine on which levels she can do this.

Extra Domain: A Songmaiden of Selune is granted access to the Moon domain. This functions exactly as normal domains for clerics. If the Songmaiden already has access to the Moon domain, then she must choose one new domain from Selune’s list. The Moon domain is detailed in the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting.

Lunar Kinship (Ex): When the moon is full, a Songmaiden of second level or higher is considered to be one caster level higher in terms of spell power when casting divine spells from her Songmaiden list or her divine base class. In addition, the Songmaiden gains one additional song per day and one additional domain spell per day at any level she can cast. However, when there is no moon, the Songmaiden is considered to be one caster level lower and cannot cast spells from the Moon domain as domain spells (but may freely cast them with standard spell slots, if able). This effect functions for three days and nights when the moon is full and for three days and nights when there is no moon. Lunar Kinship only functions on the material plane, but it works even if the Songmaiden is underground or otherwise barred from viewing the sky.

Song of Channelling (Su): A Songmaiden of level 4 or higher with at least 12 ranks in Perform gains the ability to channel positive energy through her music. This functions similar to Turn Undead, except the Songmaiden uses half her ranks in her Perform skill instead of class level for turning check and damage. The Songmaiden can be considered to possess the Turn Undead ability for feat selections and prerequisites (although any abilities that require daily usages of Turn Undead instead require usages of this song, unless the Songmaiden also has the ability to Turn Undead normally and wishes to use that instead). Using Song Channel requires two daily uses of bardic magic.

Moonsong (Su): A Songmaiden of Selune of level 6 or higher with at least 14 ranks in Perform gains the ability to use the Moonsong. This song grants the Songmaiden the ability to “hold” the forms of shapeshifting creatures that can hear the song (i.e. prevent from shapeshifting into a new form). In addition, the Songmaiden can prevent unwanted shapeshifting in her allies. This song works on both natural (lycanthropic, etc) shapeshifting as well as magical (polymorph, etc) shapeshifting. The Songmaiden must declare when beginning the song which creatures whose forms she will hold / preserve. Each creature targeted in this manner requires one daily use of bardic magic. Creatures may resist the Moonsong with a Will save, the DC being equivalent to the Perform check result. The effect lasts as long as she concentrates, to a maximum of 1 minute per Songmaiden level.

Song of Recall (Su): A Songmaiden of level 10 with at least 18 ranks in Perform gains the ability to use Song of Recall. A Songmaiden must play this song for a full minute to gain its effect. The song allows the Songmaiden to regain one divine spell or spell slot expended at a cost of 1 daily use of bardic music per spell level (orisons require 1 daily use of bardic music). Domain slots cannot be regained in this manner.

Spell List

3rd-Level
AllegroCA, Blink, Charm Monster, Clairaudience/Clairvoyance, Create Food and Water, Cure Serious Wounds, Deep Slumber, Dispel Magic, Geas- Lesser, Glyph of Warding, Good Hope, Haunting TuneMoF, Harmonic ChorusCA, Helping Hand, Hymn of PraiseCA, Invisibility Purge, Invisibility Sphere, Locate Object, Magic Circle against Law, Magic Circle against Evil, Magic Vestment, Meld into Stone, Obscure Object, PuppeteerMoF, Prayer, Protection from Energy, Remove Blindness/Deafness, Remove Curse, Remove Disease, Scrying, Summon Monster III, VigorCD, Visage of the Deity (Lesser)CD, Wind Wall

4th-Level
BlindsightMoF, Break Enchantment, CelebrationMoF, Cure Critical Wounds, Death Ward, Detect Scrying, Dimensional Anchor, Dismissal, Divination, Freedom of Movement, Invisibility (Greater), Legend Lore, Leomund’s Secure Shelter, Neutralize Poison, Planar Ally (Lesser), Rainbow Pattern, RecitationCD, Restoration, Summon Monster IV, Wall of Chaos, Wall of Good, Weapon of the DeityCD, Zone of Silence

5th-Level
Commune, Cure Light Wounds (Mass), Dance of the UnicornCD, Dispel Law, Dispel Evil, Disrupting Weapon, Divine AgilityCD, Dream, Heroism (Greater), ImprovisationCA, Mislead, Plane Shift, Raise Dead, Song of Discord, Suggestion (Mass), Summon Moonfire(see below), Summon Monster V, Symbol of Sleep, True Seeing, Vigor (Greater)CD

6th-Level
Cacophonic ShieldCA, Cat’s Grace (Mass), Cure Moderate Wounds (Mass), Dispel Magic (Greater), Eagle’s Splendor (Mass), Find the Path, Forbiddance, Fox’s Cunning (Mass), Gate SealMoF, Geas/Quest, Heal, Heroes’ Feast, HindsightCA, Owl’s Wisdom (Mass), Planar Ally, ProtégéCA, Scrying (Greater), Summon Monster VI, Suppress GlyphMoF, Symbol of Persuasion, Visage of the DeityCD, Word of Recall, Zealot PactCD

7th-Level
Cure Serious Wounds (Mass), Fortunate FateMoF, Holy StarMoF, Holy Word, Irresistible Dance, Regenerate, Renewal PactCD, Restoration (Greater), Resurrection, Righteous Wrath of the FaithfulCD, Summon Monster VII, Word of Chaos

8th-Level
Cloak of Chaos, Cure Critical Wounds (Mass), Discern Location, Holy Aura, Planar Ally (Greater), Summon Moonfire- Greater(see below), Summon Monster VIII, Undeath’s Eternal FoeMoF, Visage of the Deity (Greater)CD
New Spells[edit]

Summon Moonfire
Conjuration
Level: SnM 5
Components: V, S, DF
Casting Time: 1 standard action
Range: Touch
Target: One creature or object
Saving Throw: Special
Spell Resistance: Yes
This spell allows the caster to summon holy moonfire directly into the palm of her hand. Touching a creature or object in this manner functions as an application of moonfire salve (Magic of Faerun; for 3.5, treat the greater mage hand effect as a standard mage hand). Use the caster level of this spell instead of the caster level of moonfire salve. Targeted dispel effects allow saving throws as normal.

Summon Moonfire, Greater
Conjuration
Level: SnM 8
Components: V, S, DF
Casting Time: 1 standard action
Range: Close (25ft + 5ft / 2 levels)
Targets: One creature per two caster levels (round down), no two of which can be more than 30ft apart
Duration: 1 hour / level
Saving Throw: Will negates (harmless)
Spell Resistance: Yes
Upon casting this spell, a torrent of brilliant moonfire bathes the caster and nearby allies, granting each of them the full range of its powers. Each target gains darkvision 60ft, flight (as fly of equal caster level), and the use of mage hand at will. In addition, each target is healed for 1d8+5 points from channelled positive energy.