Gray Orc Build help.

[Ordren]

Hello everyone im looking for a fun to play Gray orc build. Id prefer it not to be usual Barb/WM/WOD thing.

I dont mind a sneaker,Caster what i do want is for it to be able to hold its own somewhat at lv30. Using pots and wands is ok

Ive been trying to fiddle with the builder but Gray orc having cleric favored class im at a loss.

Thanks for all the help in advance.

[Valefort]

What about .. cleric then ?

[Ordren]

Well im terrible at building and from what ive tried i couldnt grasp how to build a decent cleric not to mention the domain lists and what not scared me away from trying it on my own.

Cleric/Hierophant seems like a solid choice but unsure wether itll be decent enough on his own at 30.

[Steve]

Cleric/Hierophant would be spectacular, with huge DCs for spells and also if you wish to buff to Orc Heaven and beat the crap out of mobs.

You could also choose to add Bodyguard and Dark Disciple—what used to be Black Flame Zeleot—and Spellpower x 3 from Hierophant for 32 CL, and have some extra perks to the characters abilities.

Or, consider Monk / Sacred Fist / Cleric / Hierophant for going at it by hand. Literally!

[AlfarinIcebreaker]

How about Ranger 30, Zen Archery? Takes advantage of Orc's increased Wisdom, fits RP concept nicely. With Animal Bond and Epic Animal Companion and bonus spells available for buffing you will have a monster (excuse the pun) of a companion.

Not to mention that your character will be strong on his own with 7 FE, lots of good Ranger spells and feats.

[Ordren]

I like Borg Steves idea with dark disciple & i like the ranger idea as well but wont AC be quite poor if i dont have good enough dex?

[AlfarinIcebreaker]

You will start with 14 Dexterity and with Cat's Grace reach 18 in order to make full use of Mithral Chainmail. So your AC would be :

10 Base
10 Mithral Chainmail (6+4 Dex)
1 Luck of Heroes
2 Protective Ward
1 Tumble
5 Natural (Barkskin Ranger spell)
4 Deflection (Halo of Sand Ranger spell)
4 Dodge (Boots)
4 Armor (Bracers of Blinding Strike)

With Shield potion that equals 45 AC. For an Archer with HiPS (outdoors), HP of 400 and monster of Animal Companion you should be more than good. Not to mention that high Wisdom will take care of Will save which is the only low save Ranger has.

[aaron22]

prolly wont get LoH because you will need the feat for DA. you can count on 3 for boots and if you take UMD you can use a wand for IMA. so that will net you another 2. shield pots when you need them. for another 4. AC can be just fine. they will have to go through your worg anyway before they can jump on you.

cleric is super solid on orc. i have like 5 of them. all awesome and different. built up an EDM OWD/cleric/hiero that puts out about 50/hit and is nearly impervious when buffed.

[chad878262]

Other options for Gray Orc builds...

Conlock (wlk27/ds3)
STR Rogue (using Shield Slam, blinding strike and or feint)
WIS Monk
Dragon Druid

This is in addition to the very good advice already given. Grey Orc's having + STR and + WIS opens up quite a few possibilities. Obviously Sacred Fist is solid, but Pure Monk is no slouch either. Dragon Druid is pretty easy to build and very powerful, as is Conlock. STR Rogue has some deficiencies and requires you to be ready at any time with a wand of least mantle to absorb nasty spells, but adding in assassin for HiPS can be used to break spell lock even if you don't have good stealth.

What type of character do you want to play? It seems you're not interested in a Fighter or Barbarian build, so do you want a caster? a sneak? something else?

[aaron22]

i would not add DS to con lock build. for 3 level prc go HFW. or rogue dip for EW and enough dex to utilize MBP (16+LaBs).

[aaron22]

What type of character do you want to play? It seems you're not interested in a Fighter or Barbarian build, so do you want a caster? a sneak? something else?

do not be discouraged or swayed because of the racial bonuses and penalties. you can really play whatever and it WILL be just fine. there are even sorc grey orcs out there. i mean think of a type. and we can optimize from there. ideas. ways to make it work. we can even make a int damage swashy/dualist work. the platform gives some penalties but it can be made to work.

[chad878262]

DragonSlayer grants Invocation progression, Tumble and all armor and shield proficiency (including Tower Shields). Thus you can use Mithral Full Plate and leave DEX at 13 or 14 or Mithral Chainmail... Tower shield gives great AC bump without impacting your RTA as well, regardless if you wear medium or light armor. Finally, gives a nice little HP bump. Even with 14 DEX you will have no issue landing your RTA's, but it sure is nice to get +8 AC from Tower Shield either way.

[aaron22]

tbh ordren. not too many people roll up rangers or sneaks on orc. not sure why. i havent even made up a true hipser SA sneaker. no real reason that one couldnt either. int penalty for DA on a sin but that is not a very huge deal.

[chad878262]

They are just as good as wood elf IMO, better if you don't mind really dumping CHA since no CON penalty. Consider that they get a bonus to STR and WIS while 14 DEX is plenty for Mithral Chainmail. Meanwhile both races get -2 INT, but Wood Elf also gets -2 CON while Grey Orc is -2 CHA, the one dump stat a Ranger has. A Grey Orc Ranger 30, Hunter 21/Assassin9, or Ranger 22/A8 are all pretty nice splits if you're interested. My first PC was a Human R21/A9 and I played him almost exclusively for over a year and a half. It's a really fun play style IMO. Max STR, DEX 14 for Mithral Chainmail or go for MAX DEX with STR 13 or 15, using light weapons and deadly defense alongside CE. Note that on a Ranger ICE is a worthwhile mode, so you might consider INT 13 for the extra AC, if you want a TWF Ranger instead of the Zen Archery style suggested earlier.

[Egg Shen]

Do the zen archery ranger but splash phantom for the giant AC boost and some sneak damage. Won't need to mess around with mithril stuff, but will have to suffer an xp penalty. But who cares, it sounds rad and very orcish to me.