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MAA demoralized and shaken effects?

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I have a couple basic questions about the effects from this Man-at-Arms feat description:
Demoralize Opponent
Type of Feat: Class Ability
Prerequisites: Man-at-Arms 1st level,
Specifics: You bellow a striking taunt that demoralizes the target. The target must succeed a will saving throw or become demoralized. (DC is: 16 + half man-at-arms levels + Charisma modifier) Already shaken creatures can also become demoralized, suffering both effects induces panic.
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1. What are the effects on foes who become demoralized?

2. What are the effects on foes who are shaken? And what action causes foes to be shaken?

I don't see either of these effects listed on the NWN2 Wiki site (http://nwn2.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Effects). I'd appreciate if someone from the dev team could chime in. Thanks!

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Re: MAA demoralized and shaken effects?

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Bumping in hope of getting a response...Anyone?....Bueller?...

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Re: MAA demoralized and shaken effects?

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Demoralize : -2 all skills
-2 ab
-2 all saves
-1 DEX
-1 STR

Shaken : exactly the same
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Re: MAA demoralized and shaken effects?

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Thanks Val!

Quick few followup questions:

1. So obviously the Demoralize feat causes enemies to become demoralized. And the MAA feat Daunting Challenge says it causes enemies to become shaken. But does the Taunt skill also cause enemies to be shaken or demoralized?

2. How long do the effects last for being demoralized? And for being shaken?

3. Are these effects cumulative? Like if already shaken for -2 to all skills, would applying Demoralize increase negative effects to -4? I'm guessing this is like the Taunt skill and doesn't stack, but instead applies a Frightened effect.

I don't mean to be a pest, but I haven't been able to find much info on these topics.

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Re: MAA demoralized and shaken effects?

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No problem !

1. No

2. Looks like permanent

3. Cumulative + frightened
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Re: MAA demoralized and shaken effects?

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Thanks again, Val.

I don't quite understand why these effects are permanently applied, but I'll assume the effects last long enough for the MAA to get the job done.

|> Glymuldor Gryxulmyr — Moon Elf Shadowmancer
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