Suggestion: Remove all +1/+2 items from the Loot Tables

[Steve]

The point is you're being made to waste your time looting then selling to get coin, when you could just get coin.

But I guess you guys like that!!

Not forgetting to mention that those same chests/drops, which exist all over the Server independent of CR, also drop +3 items.

I guess it's just silly of me to suggest a change that would save players time and hassle! Lol. Silly me.

[Theodore01]

Yeah, lets put a gold pile in the nexus that would safe more time

And i really enjoy wasting my time looting.

[NegInfinity]

The point is you're being made to waste your time looting then selling to get coin, when you could just get coin.

It is a game. Not a job. It is a waste of time by definition. People do it because it is fun. Not in order to have an equivalent of a button that gives you gold in the most efficient way when you press it.

Current system is fun. Your proposed "solution" is not, and implementing it will make the game less fun than it is right now. That's all there is to it.

If you don't enjoy looting, I'd recommend to try some other aspect of the server. Or try rolling a character with higher strength.

[Steve]

Current system is fun. Your proposed "solution" is not, and implementing it will make the game less fun than it is right now. That's all there is to it.

You say tomato, I say tomato!

Okay, then...how about just remove +1/+2 items in exchange with coin in CR15 areas and above? See, that would be diplomatic and satisfy both you and me, right?

[Calodan]

Current system is fun. Your proposed "solution" is not, and implementing it will make the game less fun than it is right now. That's all there is to it.

You say tomato, I say tomato!

Okay, then...how about just remove +1/+2 items in exchange with coin in CR15 areas and above? See, that would be diplomatic and satisfy both you and me, right?

No. It would not. I make a good portion of my gold on items worth 1200 GP being +1 with extras and +2 with nothing extra. I make enormous amounts on +2 extras at the mudd shop.....Since the RIG system was fixed over 2 weeks ago Kory has gone from having 600K average gold to now rocking 1.4 million gold.......That is 300k a week bruh. Not sure where you are going but sorry for your bad luck.

[Steve]

Wow, I didn't know that Calodan is NegInfinity. How interesting...and doubly so how personal people take my comments.

Anyway, since you queried Calodan, and maybe you've failed to notice before, but I've posted numerous pics from CR20+ areas that are giving me complete crap. Items that have NO WORTH other than to be converted to Coin...so why not just have Coin, you understand?

This all stands aside of your glorification of Loot Farming in order to achieve some sort of "wealth," which in any sense of fantasy reality, translates into what exactly?

Coin has no sink, as has been pointed out. Top gear and a billion Coin grants a PC what, exactly? Does it grant the Player anything better?!?

And finally, maybe you don't understand my suggestion completely: removing +1/+2 items from the Loot Tables in excahenge for equal Coin payout would not stop the RIG from producing +1/+2 Items. I've pointed this out a few times now, but I seem to have to restate it, because of people's constant assumptions.

The thing is, there is actual possibility my suggestion would work with positive effect, but as I've been scolded by Staff in a passive-aggressive way in this very thread, they're not willing to try it out, nor even entertain the idea.

[NegInfinity]

Anyway, since you queried Calodan, and maybe you've failed to notice before, but I've posted numerous pics from CR20+ areas that are giving me complete crap.

I got about 70k from looting in last 1..1.5 weeks without trying hard. 90 to 95% of this from selling +1/+2/+0 items. Random generator is random. You need to be more patient and loot more chests - to increase your chances of getting something more expensive. Anything that sells for more than 500 gold or even 200 gold is a good find.

You do not appear to be patient, and do not seem to be looting many chests. Instead you open one and say that items inside are bad and then write about your experience on forums. Just because the monsters are tough, it doesn't mean they don't have a hill giant poop in their trapped chest.

Items that have NO WORTH other than to be converted to Coin...so why not just have Coin, you understand?

Becuase simply getting coin is not fun.

Opening a box, fending off a monster that prevents you from opening the box, disabling the trap, picking lock, seeing whats inside, and running ID check on every item is FUN. It is a LOT of fun, especially if you'get something really unexpected. Extra fun if you find a rare item that makes you encumbered, so now you need to slowly walk out of the dungeon at half the speed without getting killed. Which poses extra change. Extra fun if your lore skill is low, and you don't know what that item is, but since you can't id IT it must be good, so you carry it to the shop to be identified.

^^^ This is an aspect I greatly enjoy. You want to kill it and call it improvement.

Simply getting variable amount of gold is not fun at all. Because you'll know that you'll find gold. Always. Besides, if wealth is meaningless, why would you want gold anyway? It is not even about wealth. It is about opening boxes and going through the process of IDing what did random gneerator throw at you this time.

In all honesty, steve, you've spent at least two years on the forums saying that RP is the king, xp doesn't matter, level doesn't matter at every opportunity. And now it sounds like you don't wanna haul stuff to the shop to sell. Which is odd.

If you want more or less guaranteed payout in gold, you should go for bosses instead. Chests are fine as they are, and I wouldn't want an aspect of the game I enjoy to be removed. You know where the bosses are, right?

I think somewhere among the last pages, someone suggested areas to loot, and as far as I can tell you haven't checked them out.

[Calodan]

Wow, I didn't know that Calodan is NegInfinity. How interesting...and doubly so how personal people take my comments.

Anyway, since you queried Calodan, and maybe you've failed to notice before, but I've posted numerous pics from CR20+ areas that are giving me complete crap. Items that have NO WORTH other than to be converted to Coin...so why not just have Coin, you understand?

This all stands aside of your glorification of Loot Farming in order to achieve some sort of "wealth," which in any sense of fantasy reality, translates into what exactly?

Coin has no sink, as has been pointed out. Top gear and a billion Coin grants a PC what, exactly? Does it grant the Player anything better?!?

And finally, maybe you don't understand my suggestion completely: removing +1/+2 items from the Loot Tables in excahenge for equal Coin payout would not stop the RIG from producing +1/+2 Items. I've pointed this out a few times now, but I seem to have to restate it, because of people's constant assumptions.

The thing is, there is actual possibility my suggestion would work with positive effect, but as I've been scolded by Staff in a passive-aggressive way in this very thread, they're not willing to try it out, nor even entertain the idea.

You are right we are not getting anywhere with this...

Okay I agree that we need to remove all non-enchanted items of nothingness, Potions not of CL 20+, Potions that can be bought easily in townships and +1 only and possibly +2 only items..... > or = +1 with goodies needs to stay. Removing this from all CL20+ areas might be an improvement.

However the best tip for looting fun ever? Stop taking LORE ARCANA past 10 or 5 on your skill sheet! Seriously it is way more fun if you have to wait to get to town to see what you got! No joke!

[Rinzler]

Wow, I didn't know that Calodan is NegInfinity.

lol I'm glad I'm not the only person who had this thought

[NegInfinity]

However the best tip for looting fun ever? Stop taking LORE ARCANA past 10 or 5 on your skill sheet! Seriously it is way more fun if you have to wait to get to town to see what you got! No joke!

I can confirm that. It is way more interesting when you don't know what you found.

[Calodan]

Wow, I didn't know that Calodan is NegInfinity.

lol I'm glad I'm not the only person who had this thought

WOW did not know a compromise for the ENTIRE server had to boil down to two people only.......

[Rinzler]

Wow, I didn't know that Calodan is NegInfinity.

lol I'm glad I'm not the only person who had this thought

WOW did not know a compromise for the ENTIRE server had to boil down to two people only.......

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[Calodan]

the use of humor, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticize people's stupidity or vices, particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other topical issues

THen use the GD Sarcasm font next time!

[Larzs]

I say keep them, it is funny seeing those names. As for discarded bags, just spark up a fire and do a little enviro cleaning.

Or maybe they would add a tool that would transmute items down to gold value. Least that way it would keep the variety out there and solves the weight annoyance.

[Young Werther]

*uses 69 appraise on pile of 333 gp*

"Wow this pile is worth 333 gp"

*uses 69 appraise on +1 item*

"Wow i can sell this for 420 gp good thing i have 12 str lol"

/thread