Bear warrior sharp claws
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Bear warrior sharp claws
In the class description on the server there is mention of a sharp claws feat that adds an additional 1d4 slashing damage to unarmed attacked on levels 2, 6 and 9. There is no mention of it on the wiki and it was never implement.
Having playing a bear warrior now up to level 16 I feel the class is in a weird place. Playing a bear warrior makes you want to invest into an unarmed playstyle to utilize the rage form. However unarmed damage out of form is becoming pitiful enticing me to look at using a weapon instead. But if I invest into using a weapon epic rage seems simply better after the buffs to it. Yes the bear form has a lot more survivability but with ice troll berserker it is not vastly different.
Unarmed damage for a typical out of form bear warrior is limited to:
1d4 (base)+ 4 (EB) + 4 (fighter feats) +1d4 (FotF) + 3 (PA) + STR mod = 16 +str mod
There is few ways to grow unarmed damage above that.
I would suggest implementing sharp claws as an out of form only feat increasing unarmed damaged by 1d4 on level 3 and 2d4 (total) on level 8. This would be on average 5 damage on out of form unarmed attack and would make the unarmed playstyle viable for a bear warrior.
Having playing a bear warrior now up to level 16 I feel the class is in a weird place. Playing a bear warrior makes you want to invest into an unarmed playstyle to utilize the rage form. However unarmed damage out of form is becoming pitiful enticing me to look at using a weapon instead. But if I invest into using a weapon epic rage seems simply better after the buffs to it. Yes the bear form has a lot more survivability but with ice troll berserker it is not vastly different.
Unarmed damage for a typical out of form bear warrior is limited to:
1d4 (base)+ 4 (EB) + 4 (fighter feats) +1d4 (FotF) + 3 (PA) + STR mod = 16 +str mod
There is few ways to grow unarmed damage above that.
I would suggest implementing sharp claws as an out of form only feat increasing unarmed damaged by 1d4 on level 3 and 2d4 (total) on level 8. This would be on average 5 damage on out of form unarmed attack and would make the unarmed playstyle viable for a bear warrior.
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Re: Bear warrior sharp claws
note the improvements to bear warrior which make your weapon elemental damage transfer to form. Thus you don't need to be bare handed to get benefits in bear form (see what I did there?) Pretty sure most BW players equip a weapon to have the benefit of extra damage in bear form.
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Re: Bear warrior sharp claws
Perhaps it's FotF that should get a slight buff instead since the problem is non-monk fist fighting in general.
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Re: Bear warrior sharp claws
how would you create something for FotF to help damage without further buffng monk builds? curious.
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Re: Bear warrior sharp claws
Make FoF require non-lawful.aaron22 wrote:how would you create something for FotF to help damage without further buffng monk builds? curious.
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i have an existing M/FotF build that i really like. this would suck.Theodore01 wrote:Make FoF require non-lawful.aaron22 wrote:how would you create something for FotF to help damage without further buffng monk builds? curious.
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Re: Bear warrior sharp claws
I'd give it free IPA and a +1 stacking AB bonus for each level of FoF.how would you create something for FotF to help damage without further buffng monk builds? curious.
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Re: Bear warrior sharp claws
Can give +1d8 damage instead of 1d4 if no monk levels, that's doable.
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Re: Bear warrior sharp claws
would that upset the balance while in form?Valefort wrote:Can give +1d8 damage instead of 1d4 if no monk levels, that's doable.
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Re: Bear warrior sharp claws
A smidge more damage won't make much difference imo.
I was hoping vamp regen would transfer from weapon in bear form. Can we make that happen?
I was hoping vamp regen would transfer from weapon in bear form. Can we make that happen?
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Re: Bear warrior sharp claws
Maybe if we remove fast healing, deal ? 

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Re: Bear warrior sharp claws
Deal!Maybe if we remove fast healing, deal ?
