What should be Poison Saves are made as Negative Energy

Steve · Unread post by **Steve** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 11:20 am

I've noticed that some saves for Poison are being made as negative Energy. This isn't right, right?!?

For example, the Vermin Shape of a Cavestalker's poison bite is a Negative Energy save. And, the scorpions in the High Hedge also are a negative energy save.

Kinda screwed up Saves for a PC with Venom/Poison Immunity! As well, the mobs may be getting better results saving against Negative Energy, than poison...are are these both more or less the same?

Flasmix · Unread post by **Flasmix** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 11:24 am

That's a bit interesting. How does Deathward/Shadowshield work against such 'poison' attacks if it's coming up with Negative Energy?

electric mayhem · Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:14 pm

The scorps/venshapebite could be jumping the gun in the calcs?
Normal poisons roll Fort save Poison, fail just applies a negative mod to ability mod.
Maybe theres some wires crossed as to what 'negative' bonus is?

Valefort · Unread post by **Valefort** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:47 pm

Looks like an oversight more than anything.

What should be Poison Saves are made as Negative Energy

What should be Poison Saves are made as Negative Energy

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