OOC meta gaming using IC items.. Immersion breaking

[Thayvian]

Doesn't break immersion for me, I understand it gives a sake of ease moment. So to each their own I guess.

But does someone using OOC tags// breaking Immersion? I would really like to know how you don't notice when other players are using game mechanics to Circumvent roleplay to take advantage. Or well Cheat. I mean really the issue is cheating.

I don't see how you ignore that.. It's obvious your seeing the sign(prop) placed on the road or wherever beside there stall that literally says. " Click on my character to see the list"

Can you please elaborate on what you're talking about ? Because I often feel people here just refuse to rock the boat and just side with the group. Why does it bother me you might ask? Well I see the Sign. I see characters stop and read the sign, Than turn to the merchant and ask about a specific item with NO roleplay what so ever in anyway way.

Considering the amount of effort I as merchant character put in to maintaining solid roleplay. I find this stuff offensive.

Roleplay it's a Roleplaying server.

The OOC tags cause outrage but the cheating does not? This where I stop taking this server seriously or any of the enforced rules.

Which seems to be a stop gap measure for people playing however they wish and to hells with the RP.

But as soon as you type OOC not in a tell you're seen as the devil. People will actively try to get you banned or set your to hostile.

Again none of this make sense to me. Sure but whatever defend one and not the other. okay..

[NeOmega]

bro, you cant just lay out all your goods on the ground. you certainly cant put them on a shelf, since there is no such thing as shelves in this game. when items are layed out, they wll have ooc info on them, like dodge +3.


IRL, there are no world crashes where you lose all your stock, and your items dont all look like Beige mystery bags.

a lot of times, when somebody is reading your list of merchant goods, they emote * looks over the goods* which is how it would work irl. they then inquire about the item thar piques their interest.

Having worked in sales, i never had to bark, " magic goods, magic goods, get yer magic goods!"
Nor did i ever have a customer say, "what are you selling?" when it was quite clear the store they walked into, necause they could see the items on the shelves.

This whole thread, and complaint, and accusation barrage, is completely juvenile and unwarranted.

You need to check yourself.

[ValerieJean]

I suppose I am missing what you mean by OOC Tags. So ppl making a list is Immersion breaking? That would be saying the merchant shops are as well because it's a listing. Using AFK tags because you want to inform ppl you are not there or otherwise busy is breaking? It may but then I know to not bother saying hi or if anything make a passing hello comment not much more.

Elaborate on circumventing RP to take advantage/cheat. I don't see how a merchant advertising there lists because they are not the basic module merchant shop who can just have it is Cheating or taking advantage or breaking immersion.

The roleplay is reading the sign, see it as if they posted a piece of parchment showing the listing of that merchant. That's like saying any 'proclomations' the dukes have made which could be posted on signs or the forums is immersion breaking. It's not, it's the way to inform people and makes it easy on them as well as to keep track of everything instead of running through an inventory list 500+ times as each person comes to ask you what you have.

I am not sure how making a list can be offensive RP, just because they are doing it one way does not meant you have to.

It is a roleplaying server and they are roleplaying.

I may have missed it in previous posts as I was just answering the general use of signs as immersion breaking. But what are these OOC tags you mention. What cheating are you referring to?

People usually inform about stopping the OOC because it has gone on too much. And it breaking the RP that is being had, that it is being disruptive. It's a common courtesy to be honest. I myself use OOC now and again but I try to keep it limited so as not to disrupt too much. It's not saying you cant use it, it's more just keep it down, and anything argumentative people will try to say to take to tells between the two parties as it can disrupt the RP for awhile.

Hopefully this helps to better understand I may be a bit all over the place but I tried to go line by line to what you said!

[Aspect of Sorrow]

im looking for a non-proportional font ascii convertor. If you know of one...

Hm, the one I wrote just emulates what's in the clipboard character for character but doesn't catch the newlines / carriage returns.

[NeOmega]

im looking for a non-proportional font ascii convertor. If you know of one...

Hm, the one I wrote just emulates what's in the clipboard character for character but doesn't catch the newlines / carriage returns.

yeaah, im looking for one that converts images, so i dont have to handtype out an image of waukeens coin...


..i also thought it would be cool to have a painter bard, and a map making monk...

[Aspect of Sorrow]

Oh you want to do ascii art?

[NeOmega]

Oh you want to do ascii art?

so many possibilities....

[Thayvian]

bro, you cant just lay out all your goods on the ground. you certainly cant put them on a shelf, since there is no such thing as shelves in this game. when items are layed out, they wll have ooc info on them, like dodge +3.


IRL, there are no world crashes where you lose all your stock, and your items dont all look like Beige mystery bags.

a lot of times, when somebody is reading your list of merchant goods, they emote * looks over the goods* which is how it would work irl. they then inquire about the item thar piques their interest.

Having worked in sales, i never had to bark, " magic goods, magic goods, get yer magic goods!"
Nor did i ever have a customer say, "what are you selling?" when it was quite clear the store they walked into, necause they could see the items on the shelves.

This whole thread, and complaint, and accusation barrage, is completely juvenile and unwarranted.

You need to check yourself.

You're joking right? I see cheating and using ooc meta game knowledge to circumvent roleplaying and your calling accusations and taking it personally? i honestly don't understand the cult like behavior here.

You're calling me juvenile because I see people cheating in game. And you're taking it personally as if I'm attacking your best friends in the world. Or some how attacking the entire server.

If you guys want to ABUSE game mechanics for in game advantages, that's not cool the rest of us. Whom are not doing so.

I could easily abuse game mechanics but I don't because it's CALLED CHEATING.

Nor do I be a D-Bag of the highest caliber and take offense and directly insult someone when they say something that I don't agree with.

It's called discussion and debate. It does not work when you do everything in your power make it an attack on the entire servers player-base. It's like talking to an ideologue.

No one is attacking the server. But I am calling out cheaters.


While you get directly insult me? And call me juvenile for pointing out someone cheating. Sure whatever there bud.

Cool story bro.

And I'm reporting you for abuse I mean that seems to be the trick here.

You see a negative comment take it to heart get everyone to jump on the let's hate on the guy because he said something we don't like band wagon and than try to get Dms to ban the offender for saying "Wrong Think"

Grow up you child. Learn to debate. And respect alternative views to your own.

I get it the game is perfect the way that it is.. NEver try to make it better.. whatever I see a clique it's pretty obvious at this point that none of you give a flying crap about Roleplay only when it's inconvenient for you. But you don't give a crap about when it's inconvenient for others.

what a cess pool this place can be sometimes.

Dm close the thread

[chad878262]

And things were going so well... here comes the lock...

[AC81]

I would also suggest that merchant characters require Dm approval imo.

Umm ... don't think that will ever happen, nor should it.

The descriptions are there to alert people to look at a pc bio. It's an in-game convenience that everyone has managed to cope with until now. It stops that stupid opening line of "So what're you selling?" when it would be perfectly clear what the merchant is selling, it's just that there is no mechanic to let the player know what you're selling other than a description on a bio. And as for describing each item to a player upon request, well that sounds like you're selling to a blind man. Painful and wouldn't happen irl.

There are so many immersion breaking things, this is such a minor one. I find it immersion breaking everytime I kill a dragon or hear of others doing the same thing, but whatever, it is what it is.

[Blame The Rogue]

imagination and suspension of disbelief

just look at the ic bio list of items for sale as you seeing all the items layed out on the table before you

[Maecius]

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