Just curious as to what is the lowest BAB you folks would suggest as a warrior class and still be effective late game. Currently working on a build that will be more flavor/rp based than pure pve, but I don't want to handicap myself so bad that I am utterly useless in a fight.
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Lowest Reasonable BAB for warriors
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Re: Lowest Reasonable BAB for warriors
Easy, 26.
Unless you mean AB, then the question becomes slightly more complicated to answer.
Unless you mean AB, then the question becomes slightly more complicated to answer.
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Re: Lowest Reasonable BAB for warriors
You can get by with 40 AB, but that would be absolute minimum IMO unless you have HiPS and/or Expose Weakness. Shooting for 45 would be a good goal, but having at least 40 should be acceptable in game, especially with a party. Should be relatively easy to get to even without epic gear or a PB.
BAB: 26 + 6 (STR or DEX) + 3 (EB) = 35 without Weapon Focus, Epic Prowess or any other AB enhancing feats and with pretty darn low main attack stat. So even if you take a couple dips in medium BAB classes you should not have issue getting over 40. Remember there are potions of (greater) heroism available as well, to use when needed. In some area's 40 isn't going to cut it well enough to be happy with your performance, but in most area's it'll do.
BAB: 26 + 6 (STR or DEX) + 3 (EB) = 35 without Weapon Focus, Epic Prowess or any other AB enhancing feats and with pretty darn low main attack stat. So even if you take a couple dips in medium BAB classes you should not have issue getting over 40. Remember there are potions of (greater) heroism available as well, to use when needed. In some area's 40 isn't going to cut it well enough to be happy with your performance, but in most area's it'll do.
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Re: Lowest Reasonable BAB for warriors
Yeah, sorry, didn't think that through when I wrote it.The Whistler wrote:Easy, 26.
Unless you mean AB, then the question becomes slightly more complicated to answer.
I meant AB, including weapon bonuses, feats, etc.
Right now, I figure my character is sitting at 35 AB at level 30 with unenchanted equipment.
37 if you count bane of enemies.
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Re: Lowest Reasonable BAB for warriors
That should be fine. You'll have HiPS so outdoors you can use that. 39/41 if you have +4 EB weapons. I fail to see how you are ending up so low as a 21+ level ranger, but assuming you have Epic Prowess/Expose Weakness you should do ok inside where HiPS isn't an option. Don't forget Ranger spells such as Aid and Cats Grace (if dex based), which will also help your AB.SpoonDagger wrote:Right now, I figure my character is sitting at 35 AB at level 30 with unenchanted equipment.
37 if you count bane of enemies.
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Re: Lowest Reasonable BAB for warriors
I think 40 AB is considered the minimum. At least that's the idea that has been floating for a few years when it comes to general build advice.
I myself try to get a minimum of 35-40 BAB on my melee characters.
I myself try to get a minimum of 35-40 BAB on my melee characters.
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Re: Lowest Reasonable BAB for warriors
By being dumb and trying to make a Dual Wielding 2 hander buildchad878262 wrote:That should be fine. You'll have HiPS so outdoors you can use that. 39/41 if you have +4 EB weapons. I fail to see how you are ending up so low as a 21+ level ranger, but assuming you have Epic Prowess/Expose Weakness you should do ok inside where HiPS isn't an option. Don't forget Ranger spells such as Aid and Cats Grace (if dex based), which will also help your AB.SpoonDagger wrote:Right now, I figure my character is sitting at 35 AB at level 30 with unenchanted equipment.
37 if you count bane of enemies.
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Re: Lowest Reasonable BAB for warriors
Two two-handed weapons used with two-weapon fighting... Isn't that like -6 AB?
You could bring it down to -4 if you get that custom Oversized Two-weapon Fighting feat.
You could bring it down to -4 if you get that custom Oversized Two-weapon Fighting feat.
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Re: Lowest Reasonable BAB for warriors
Worth noting that dual wielding 2-handers looks super glitchy to everyone except the person playing the wielder.SpoonDagger wrote:By being dumb and trying to make a Dual Wielding 2 hander buildchad878262 wrote:That should be fine. You'll have HiPS so outdoors you can use that. 39/41 if you have +4 EB weapons. I fail to see how you are ending up so low as a 21+ level ranger, but assuming you have Epic Prowess/Expose Weakness you should do ok inside where HiPS isn't an option. Don't forget Ranger spells such as Aid and Cats Grace (if dex based), which will also help your AB.SpoonDagger wrote:Right now, I figure my character is sitting at 35 AB at level 30 with unenchanted equipment.
37 if you count bane of enemies.I know, I know, terribly terrible idea.....but....Dual Wielding 2 handers.....
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