About that "bag of holding"

[Twotricks]

Hi !

Brand new player here. This game is awesome !

Though I am struggling a bit with my halfling rogue to carry pretty much anything.
Having low STR and halfling penalty to carry weight.

I found some old tread about Bags of holding , and how some solution is going to be implemented "soon"

Was something implemented ?

Any news on this ???

[Steve]

There is an NPC merchant(s) around the Server that can store items for you (in particular locations, as I remember the latest change). There are also pack mules now.

Appears to be that Bags of Holding will not become widely available.

But yeah, low STR toons will have a bit if a hard time, at moments...but that is part and parcel of picking a character and a build!

[Twotricks]

There is an NPC merchant(s) around the Server that can store items for you (in particular locations, as I remember the latest change). There are also pack mules now.

Appears to be that Bags of Holding will not become widely available.

But yeah, low STR toons will have a bit if a hard time, at moments...but that is part and parcel of picking a character and a build!

But you can not take Pack Mule into the dungeon ? Can you ?

How does it work ? Does it aggro enemies ? Can it be attacked or killed ?

My problem is that when I go down the dungeon and collect loot. As I get to lowest level my character is so encumbered, there is no way he can return up alive.

I know you guys say, its your build - but right now STR builds have advantage in every possible way. And that is killing variety in this fantastic world

[Steve]

How do you propose that, a low strength character gets to "equal" a high strength character, in terms of carrying capacity? Do you see how just going the "give em a Bag of Holding" route, places imbalance towards the low STR toon? Halflings have one sort of advantage, and not others! THAT is variety too, right?

Anyway, pack mules can go in dungeons, though not recommended as they can die (but you don't lose your stuff).

Can I suggest you be a bit more picky about what your Toon loots?!

[Valefort]

Abandon stuff on the ground and get back in to retrieve it, there's a price to pay for having 10 STR

[Twotricks]

How do you propose that, a low strength character gets to "equal" a high strength character, in terms of carrying capacity? Do you see how just going the "give em a Bag of Holding" route, places imbalance towards the low STR toon? Halflings have one sort of advantage, and not others! THAT is variety too, right?

Anyway, pack mules can go in dungeons, though not recommended as they can die (but you don't lose your stuff).

Can I suggest you be a bit more picky about what your Toon loots?!

Well I will not go into this discussion. I am just going to say that one of my character is similar to 99.9999% of characters played on PW servers. And he can carry 3 full plates including one he is wearing while he cleans the +3 CR above his level dungeon, alone.

While my "unbalanced" low STR character, struggles with anything if there nobody to help. Its such uphill battle - and only for sake of roleplay and not being same-ol-same-ol character that everyone plays. So having to cope with crawling back from dungeon, and dying. Is frustration that really puts the cherry on top of that rewarding experience.

So yes. Less crawling, in my opinion, will not unbalance nothing from already predominant STR builds.


And BTW , bag of holding is a thing in D&D since time of Gary Gaygax - I know you guys find it hard to implement. And that is probably the main reason for all this. But please dont call it "unbalanced" cause that is just not true.

[Steve]

Sorry, but I've played halflings and low STR toons and I've managed! Not to say it isn't DIFFERENT and a PITA compared to high STR toons, but...when you want to have supreme DEX and supreme H/MS and supreme Sneak Attacks, supreme etc. in all ways not STR, your toon—and I guess your playing enjoyment! —is just going to "suffer" a little bit.

What "kills" variety of this Server is players not wanting to compromise whatever "perfect" game experience they subjectively desire. Variety is alive and well...and sometimes, variety sucks! Is hard! Takes patience! Who wudda thunk it?!!?

But mate, I DO feel your OOC pain on this issue. If you don't like it, you really don't have to play it. You know? I NEVER make a toon with less than 11 STR. Never. So that's my personal compensation at work. We all have to do it!!

[Twotricks]

Sorry, but I've played halflings and low STR toons and I've managed! Not to say it isn't DIFFERENT and a PITA compared to high STR toons, but...when you want to have supreme DEX and supreme H/MS and supreme Sneak Attacks, supreme etc. in all ways not STR, your toon—and I guess your playing enjoyment! —is just going to "suffer" a little bit.

What "kills" variety of this Server is players not wanting to compromise whatever "perfect" game experience they subjectively desire. Variety is alive and well...and sometimes, variety sucks! Is hard! Takes patience! Who wudda thunk it?!!?

But mate, I DO feel your OOC pain on this issue. If you don't like it, you really don't have to play it. You know? I NEVER make a toon with less than 11 STR. Never. So that's my personal compensation at work. We all have to do it!!

Oh well

I guess I will just have to get some gloves of ogre strength or something

[Steve]

I guess I will just have to get some gloves of ogre strength or something

Lol. Now you're thinking!

[Hawke]

I only play Wizards... and druids. Since my druid is a shifter, I am like most of the people who dump physical stats.

My wizards are all relatively different but the same with their stats.

I have a wizard with 8 strength. Even with Bulls, it is a serious pain to get any loot beyond small weapons and light armors.

Then I have other wizards at 12 Strength. This is MUCH better, and I get into places that require that adequate strength level with Bulls. I think my armored caster has 12 strength and he is wearing Full Plate and a Tower Shield. Granted the combined weight of both is 10 lbs.

Then I had my Orc wizard at like 16 Strength. And that is frickin awesome for leveling up. Not only do I get to do damage and +5 AB with Bulls, but he can carry trucks if he wanted to.

Like Steve said, and like the other post that was started about bags of holding, it's all about how you want your build to be.

I would like it once you hit a certain percentage of encumbrance, you cannot move. But you just walk really really slow.


To answer the OPs OP. No word on bags of holding being put in game that I know of.

[SunieWitch]

I'd love a gem bag or an ammo bag.

[Rask]

On my rogue I just make sure to carry a few potions of bulls strength on me for those occasions.

[Tsidkenu]

Also, casting or using a consumable granting Freedom of Movement before your character becomes 'Heavily Encumbered' will mean you can still walk at 'Encumbered' speed for the spell's duration

[Egg Shen]

How do you propose that, a low strength character gets to "equal" a high strength character, in terms of carrying capacity?

Implement item breakage when bashing a chest. Implement scary traps. Traps that reduce your STR to 8 and can't be lesser resto'd off. LOL. Then we can all walk out of the dungeon at the same pace, because we certainly wouldn't want to party up in order to cover our weaknesses.....har!

On my weak characters, which is almost all of them, I'm just picky about what I carry around and, as others have mentioned, I carry around some bull's potions. It stinks, but for now it is what it is.

[Egg Shen]

Also, casting or using a consumable granting Freedom of Movement before your character becomes 'Heavily Encumbered' will mean you can still walk at 'Encumbered' speed for the spell's duration