Coming Soon: Discussion Thread (2017)

[Sun Wukong]

With the 100% Spell Failure in place, a Spirit Shaman/Druid can no longer apply Greater Magic Fang or Jagged Tooth to the Shapechange forms. These spells require a animal weapon/shape to apply to, thus buffing before shaping is impossible.

Wiz/Sorc can apply Keen/GMW/Greater Heroism before buffing into either Polymorph spell.

I would like to request Fang and Tooth combo to be re-scripted to apply before Shifting.

Thank you.

Would those apply to all weapons or just 'unarmed' gauntlets? I would assume unarmed gauntlets.

[Cenerae]

I don't suppose there's any chance of getting some different gender forms on the Polymorph spell? All the PC race options are male only, which seems to limit the value on it as an RP spell.

And some alternate, RP version of the spell where the forms have garbage combat stats but last longer, maybe?

[Sun Wukong]

Polymorph Self lasts 1 minute per caster level, and you can extend it. Animal and humanoid shapes are already basically creatures of garbage stats.

[Cenerae]

Polymorph Self lasts 1 minute per caster level, and you can extend it. Animal and humanoid shapes are already basically creatures of garbage stats.

I brought up the latter because I have a want to use the spell for RP purposes, but I'll have to cast it off a scroll or wand. Which I don't think can be extended.

But I'll settle for female shapes to go with the male ones, where appropriate.

[Sun Wukong]

Yeah, the Polymorph Self scroll lasts 7 minutes or something like that. Perhaps potions by master alchemist could be of more use to you?

[Hawke]

With the 100% Spell Failure in place, a Spirit Shaman/Druid can no longer apply Greater Magic Fang or Jagged Tooth to the Shapechange forms. These spells require a animal weapon/shape to apply to, thus buffing before shaping is impossible.

Wiz/Sorc can apply Keen/GMW/Greater Heroism before buffing into either Polymorph spell.

I would like to request Fang and Tooth combo to be re-scripted to apply before Shifting.

Thank you.

Spirit Shaman is out of luck, but druid "could" wildshape into something, cast it, then shapeshift.

[Steve]

Spirit Shaman is out of luck, but druid "could" wildshape into something, cast it, then shapeshift.

EXPLOIT!!! lol.

[aaron22]

Spirit Shaman is out of luck, but druid "could" wildshape into something, cast it, then shapeshift.

EXPLOIT!!! lol.

that is just a clever use of spell progression.

[Hawke]

I know Tsid, but the issue still stems that I lose spell slots. As wizard and sorcerer alike. Maybe two of the spell levels are level 4... I use extended haste for those blocks. I may shapeshift for 5 minutes and switch back, haste and shift again, or drop out and cast Gate.

That is my rationale behind my reservations about polymorph spells... it just effs up the spells as a whole. Makes things more complicated than it needs to be (no fault of staff, just inherent crap code).

[Steve]

Let's clear this up!

The OP lists the Augment Form feat as:

Augment Form
Type of Feat: General
Prerequisite: Spellfocus Transmutation.
Specifics: The character becomes skilled with spells and abilities that allow him to assume another form. For the duration, the character’s base attack bonus becomes medium (unless its already higher) but cannot exceed the character’s HD.
Affected Spells and Abilities: Polymorph, Tenser’s Transformation, Shapechange, Spider Shape, Spider Form and Shifter’s Forms.

However! The ye olde BGTSCC Wiki i now says:

Augment Form

Type of Feat: General

Prerequisite: Spellfocus Transmutation.
Specifics: The character becomes skilled with spells and abilities that allow him to assume another form. For the duration, the character’s base attack bonus becomes medium (unless its already higher) but cannot exceed the character’s HD. As example, a 10 Wizard 10 Eldritch Knight will have 17 BAB.
Affected Spells and Abilities: Polymorph, Shapechange.
Has been added to the feat list of Archmage, Hierophant and many other PrCs.

What the puck happened to Tenser's and all the other affected forms?!? TRANSMUTATION MAN!!! LOL. Stop messing with my UBER GISH!!!

[Nachti]

Tensers hasnt been touched yet. That spell is supposted to grant high BAB but was lowered on bgtscc. Its not making sense to power up the spell "again" with a feat. So I postponed this in favor of other transmutation things.

[Steve]

So, Augment Form only affects Polymorph and Shapechage, in this iteration?

[Nachti]

Yes.

[Steve]

Okay... *rips up his character build sheet, starts over...heads to the Recycler...*

lol.

[DiceyCZ]

I'd like to ask what is the plan for the future on a few things if I am putting it into the rigt topic please?

For example the bonus spells (if and when implemented so that we keep them), is this only considering bonus spells from attribute bonus (i.e. +int item) or also from items that give bonus slots?

Is there any plan to allow forms use Heal skill for example? There are only so many 9th level spell slots and having to return to regular form every time you need healing seems rather impractical for using this as a main form of combat. Btw are there any plans what feats will and won't carry over to shapechange/polymorph? I have seen talk that fast healing for example should carry over but the same doesn't go for all feats and so on if it does for this one?

Thanks