So I am looking for good dagger for my rogue. All I want is +4 EB and some kind of additional damage that is rarely resisted by creatures immune to critical/sneak attacks.
But I am having real hard time finding this.
For example we have "Pims" that are only +2EB 1d4 acid and give 1d6 sneak attack. How ever sneak attack feat does not stack with rogue sneak attack. So this dagger is only good for class that does not have sneak attack. And 1d4 acid is good damage, but just +2 EB is not that good, seeing how expensive this dagger is - it is certanly not worth it.
Ruby dagger gives +4EB and 1d6 against undead. This is nice, but undead are not only enemies resistant to sneak attacks. Which makes this dagger pretty pointless as well.
Next dagger is Spectral. It is +3EB and does negative energy 1d4 bonus. But negative energy is most often resisted by undead and many things resistant to sneak attacks. So again pointless.
Than we have very expensive Wyvern Dagger. This one is +3 does 1d4 acid damage and strenght drain on hit ( what is DC is not specified ) High lvl rogues allready deal str damage on hit with their feat crippling attack, and some comments say the DC is very low too.
So why no just straight +4 dagger with damage bonus ?
On the end it turns that cheapest daggers from Gullykin are superior wit their +3EB and 1d6 electric or fire damage. And they cost 180 000 gold less than some of above mentioned.
Good daggers ?
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Re: Good daggers ?
Get Rogue Stealth daggers and use Flame Weapon scrolls to add 1d9 fire damage to your PC. There are +3EB with +3H/MS
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Re: Good daggers ?
Not shabby idea. How ever "Flame weapon" is 60 sec lvl. I would like to have more permanent solutionCalodan wrote:Get Rogue Stealth daggers and use Flame Weapon scrolls to add 1d9 fire damage to your PC. There are +3EB with +3H/MS
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Stick around for a couple of years, save up gold, wait until a Player wants to sell something they've grown tired of of acquired through a lucky RIG find.
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How does RNG works here? Can it create truly random combinations, or just versions of stuff already at vendors ?Steve wrote:Stick around for a couple of years, save up gold, wait until a Player wants to sell something they've grown tired of of acquired through a lucky RIG find.
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The RIG is based on CR and Percentages for Power Level (tied to CR...higher the CR area, the greater the percentage of high level gear).
The the likelihood is rather low, else everyone would be running around with amazing gear. And we really don't want that! nope nope nope.
It creates truly random combinations. Which is why you see so much weird and semi-useless gear unsold at Mudd's Consignment shop.
There is also a Loot Table that has fixed stat gear, but I'm not sure how much NPC merchant gear is also in the Loot Table.
That's my understanding of it, but Sir dedude or Valefort could give you a more detailed answer...though, that is probably top secret info and they'd have to kill you afterwards. Secrets and all....!!!
The the likelihood is rather low, else everyone would be running around with amazing gear. And we really don't want that! nope nope nope.
It creates truly random combinations. Which is why you see so much weird and semi-useless gear unsold at Mudd's Consignment shop.
There is also a Loot Table that has fixed stat gear, but I'm not sure how much NPC merchant gear is also in the Loot Table.
That's my understanding of it, but Sir dedude or Valefort could give you a more detailed answer...though, that is probably top secret info and they'd have to kill you afterwards. Secrets and all....!!!

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Scrolls last for roughly 10 minutes. For their price it is waaay cheap to run and you get so much more from having high H/MS on a sneak build. The fire damage helps against the one thing that really sucks when a rogue in undead as well.Twotricks wrote:Not shabby idea. How ever "Flame weapon" is 60 sec lvl. I would like to have more permanent solutionCalodan wrote:Get Rogue Stealth daggers and use Flame Weapon scrolls to add 1d9 fire damage to your PC. There are +3EB with +3H/MS
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Re: Good daggers ?
That +6 in stealth is not such big deal. Stealth rogue already has astronomic stealth.
As for scrolls being cheap. You are right. I am just one of those people that can hoard lot of usables but never use them
As for scrolls being cheap. You are right. I am just one of those people that can hoard lot of usables but never use them