build analysis

[The Last Question]

I'm trying to design a build made for a gypsy-esque character and this is what I came up with: http://nwn2db.com/build/?284454

My goal: a jack-of-all-trades, melee-oriented sort.

- Dispells are gonna be his bane, but I did my best to pump AC and remedy the lower saves. Is it enough to survive most levels?

- Feat-wise, I ended up going the steadfast route. Do you guys have any other suggestions? He won't be wearing any shields for the sake of his abilities, so I'm not sure if there are other combat feats that might fit in.

- He comes with 4 dodge AC. Will it stack with other gear bonuses?

- Is there any other way to optimize the level distribution? I feel like I spent way too many skill points in lore and diplomacy (which I wanted to have, just not... that much).



Thanks for reading this!

[Hendrak]

I would reduce the levels of Whirling Dervish to 3. Give him two more Bard levels (22)

You are missing Practiced Spellcaster Bard in your feats. Your CL will be 26 then; that will make you immune to Greater Dispels.

Toughness,Steadfest D. probably not worth for you. you are lacking a good fort save, even with Bard buffs.

You could also drop E.Prowess, Exp.Weakness and aim for Hymn/Song of Requiem.
Chorus of Heroism could also be dropped.

Good feats you are missing : PA/IPA. PA can be achieved via items.

Going 3 Rogue instead 3 Whirling Dervish is superior. You free another feat (dont need mobility) and get more Skill Points and SA. No Disadvantages.

[flipside43]

I agree with above, reducing whirling dervish, picking up bard and trying to pick up song and hymn of requiem. I'd likely swap out the great strength for it.

Also spellcraft, you get +1 saving throw vs spells for 5 unmodified ranks. No point in ending at 33.

[chad878262]

You are missing Practiced Spellcaster Bard in your feats. Your CL will be 26 then; that will make you immune to Greater Dispels.

This isn't fully accurate. CL26 is immune to dispel, but not greater dispel. You need full cl30 for that. Still 26 is decent enough and psc is definitely must have.

[Hendrak]

Ohh, you re right, Chad. I seem to always mess that up.

The feat Lingering Song could also be good for you.

[izzul]

both songs seems to be very important for a bard build.

how about EDM,

forego EDM for better stats is a good option?

[The Last Question]

Right. First of all, thank you for the suggestions!

I'm divided:

1) http://nwn2db.com/build/?284454

Ditching Whirling Dervish (such a cool class!) for Rogue sure helps a lot, as much as I hate to admit it. Couldn't find a way to properly add PA/IPA, but got Practiced Spellcaster and Lingering Song there, as well as the Requiems - I just don't know what could replace Chorus of Heroism.


2) http://nwn2db.com/build/?284457

The stubborn route. Reduced Dervish for Whirling, granting this guy 1 extra AB. Armor Skin is there because I honestly don't know what else could replace it.

Also, a special thanks to flipside, forgot completely about the skill scores.

Thoughts?


edit: I almost forgot! Does anyone know if the dodge bonus stack with other gear-related dodge bonuses?

[chad878262]

all dodge bonuses stack up to +20.

[The Last Question]

all dodge bonuses stack up to +20.

Grand! Thanks.

[Sun Wukong]

Pick first.

[Hendrak]

With some min-maxing stats you can even go for Bard22/Dervish5/ShadowDancer3. This will give you HIPS, a great defense against dispels, spells and all other attacks.