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Dragonslayer and Armored Efficiency

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Dragonslayer and Armored Efficiency

Questions:

One : As it currently works in game, how does this operate in conjunction with Energy Resistance granted by the class?

Two: Is there any feasibility to this being implemented to the class (like Paladin, Fighter, Man-At-Arms etc) without disrupting class/game balance, or is it not necessary due to mechanics?

I'd rather have the information before making a suggestion when one might not be necessary to make.
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Re: Dragonslayer and Armored Efficiency

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Armored Efficiency, is already granted to Fighters, Paladins, Barbarians, and Men-at-Arms at level eight.

As for how it works, I am not entirely sure yet. One or the other is subtracted first. :lol:
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Re: Dragonslayer and Armored Efficiency

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Reckeo wrote:Dragonslayer and Armored Efficiency

Questions:

One : As it currently works in game, how does this operate in conjunction with Energy Resistance granted by the class?

Two: Is there any feasibility to this being implemented to the class (like Paladin, Fighter, Man-At-Arms etc) without disrupting class/game balance, or is it not necessary due to mechanics?

I'd rather have the information before making a suggestion when one might not be necessary to make.
It is actually quite easy to explain. So Dragon slayer class grants resistances that are 10/Fire like DR.

Armored Efficiency is at 30% elemental resistance. ALL % resistances stack with each other!

So how it works when you get hit with a fire spell per say first the 10/fire will be knocked off and then the 30% fire resistance from Armored Efficiency will be pulled off in the log.

For example look at the balor on grey peaks. It has 20/ColdIron+Good DR and 25% physical immunity. When you hit it the 20 DR is first taken off and then 25% of the damage that is left. If the DR did not soak it all up to start.

Hope that helps!
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Re: Dragonslayer and Armored Efficiency

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Calodan wrote:
Reckeo wrote:Dragonslayer and Armored Efficiency

Questions:

One : As it currently works in game, how does this operate in conjunction with Energy Resistance granted by the class?

Two: Is there any feasibility to this being implemented to the class (like Paladin, Fighter, Man-At-Arms etc) without disrupting class/game balance, or is it not necessary due to mechanics?

I'd rather have the information before making a suggestion when one might not be necessary to make.
It is actually quite easy to explain. So Dragon slayer class grants resistances that are 10/Fire like DR.

Armored Efficiency is at 30% elemental resistance. ALL % resistances stack with each other!

So how it works when you get hit with a fire spell per say first the 10/fire will be knocked off and then the 30% fire resistance from Armored Efficiency will be pulled off in the log.

For example look at the balor on grey peaks. It has 20/ColdIron+Good DR and 25% physical immunity. When you hit it the 20 DR is first taken off and then 25% of the damage that is left. If the DR did not soak it all up to start.

Hope that helps!
Great to know, thanks a bunch.

So my next question is, can we implement Armored Efficiency into the Dragonslayer PRC at level 8 to be on par with Paladin, Fighter, Man-At-Arms and Barbarian?
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Re: Dragonslayer and Armored Efficiency

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Do you mean, somehow stacking? Or just the feat?

You can already make a Fighter 20/Dragon Slayer 10, or Barbarian 20/Dragon Slayer 10, or Paladin 20/Dragon Slayer 10, or Man-at-Arms 20/Dragon Slayer 10.
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Re: Dragonslayer and Armored Efficiency

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Reckeo wrote:
Calodan wrote:
Reckeo wrote:Dragonslayer and Armored Efficiency

Questions:

One : As it currently works in game, how does this operate in conjunction with Energy Resistance granted by the class?

Two: Is there any feasibility to this being implemented to the class (like Paladin, Fighter, Man-At-Arms etc) without disrupting class/game balance, or is it not necessary due to mechanics?

I'd rather have the information before making a suggestion when one might not be necessary to make.
It is actually quite easy to explain. So Dragon slayer class grants resistances that are 10/Fire like DR.

Armored Efficiency is at 30% elemental resistance. ALL % resistances stack with each other!

So how it works when you get hit with a fire spell per say first the 10/fire will be knocked off and then the 30% fire resistance from Armored Efficiency will be pulled off in the log.

For example look at the balor on grey peaks. It has 20/ColdIron+Good DR and 25% physical immunity. When you hit it the 20 DR is first taken off and then 25% of the damage that is left. If the DR did not soak it all up to start.

Hope that helps!
Great to know, thanks a bunch.

So my next question is, can we implement Armored Efficiency into the Dragonslayer PRC at level 8 to be on par with Paladin, Fighter, Man-At-Arms and Barbarian?
I do not believe any PRC has been granted this. Pretty sure they only wanted Base classes to give the feat so that would make you dip more into the martial class. That and Dragon Slayer is already a HIGH BAB Casting class.
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Re: Dragonslayer and Armored Efficiency

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I kind of thought that it was only granted to the base martial classes on purpose. The reason I was wondering about it was due to the fact that this PRC class is already a bit of a martial class on it's own as it stands.

I won't suggest it gains it since it's already granted to Martial classes and it might be a bit too much if this PRC gained it as well (granting it the same as the base classes without having to be the base class).

Thanks for the discussion!
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