Karma monks

Questions About Character Builds, Build Critiques, and Build Sharing

Moderators: Moderator, DM

chad878262
QC Coordinator
Posts: 9333
Joined: Thu Sep 18, 2014 6:55 pm

Re: Karma monks

Unread post by chad878262 »

Sun Wukong wrote:
chad878262 wrote:Nope, The build AC81 posted can reach 17 APR.
Shouldn't that be 18?
BAB of 26+, which gives 6 attacks per hand. 12 attacks

Greater Flurry of Blows, gives 5 attacks. 17 attacks.

Haste gives an extra attack. 18 attacks?
True.
Chord Silverstrings - Bard and OSR Squire / Tarent Nefzen - Arcane Wand Merchant and Master Alchemist / Irrace Arkentlar - Drow Adventurer / Finneaus Du'Veil - Gem Merchant and Executive Officer of SCCE

Tarent's Wands and Elixirs

A Wand Crafter's guide to using wands
Sun Wukong
Posts: 2837
Joined: Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:05 pm

Re: Karma monks

Unread post by Sun Wukong »

AC81 wrote:M11/F14/SB5 is good also, uses intelligence for damage. Wicked XP penalty + ECL.
Air Genasi, +2 DEX and INT, -2 WIS and CHA, Favored class Fighter, hence only a 20% experience penalty after reaching level 26. http://nwn2db.com/build/?285490 <= Such a build put together quickly.
" I am no longer here, the elves of the Sword Coast are just far too horrible... "
- Elminster, probably.
scriver
Posts: 177
Joined: Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:05 pm

Re: Karma monks

Unread post by scriver »

Sun Wukong wrote:
scriver wrote:
Sun Wukong wrote: Self-Concealment,
Kama kama kama kama kama chameleon
FINALLY! SOMEONE GETS IT! IT HAS BEEN YEARS, LITERAL YEARS!
I am proud and joyous :D Oh frabjous day
User avatar
AC81
Posts: 934
Joined: Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:58 am

Re: Karma monks

Unread post by AC81 »

Sun Wukong wrote:
AC81 wrote:M11/F14/SB5 is good also, uses intelligence for damage. Wicked XP penalty + ECL.
Air Genasi, +2 DEX and INT, -2 WIS and CHA, Favored class Fighter, hence only a 20% experience penalty after reaching level 26. http://nwn2db.com/build/?285490 <= Such a build put together quickly.
Pretty good. I'd personally drop blindfight, toughness, steadfast and blinding strike in favour of imp combat expertise, greater TWD, expose weakness and maybe ki step if I could re-jig my stats a little to get 13 or 14 wis.
Draviir - Luskanite mercenary and trader of exquisite goods.
Quinath Nar - Monastic warrior from Waterdeep
Sun Wukong
Posts: 2837
Joined: Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:05 pm

Re: Karma monks

Unread post by Sun Wukong »

You could drop starting dexterity to 19, which frees enough points to raise Wisdom little higher. You will need to get that +4 dexterity item instead of a cheap +3 one, but you get to have the feats you want.

Additionally, if you take Monk 6/Swashbuckler 5 pre-epic, you can push one of the fighter bonus feat levels to epic levels and grab Epic Prowess, which makes space for Expose Weakness.
" I am no longer here, the elves of the Sword Coast are just far too horrible... "
- Elminster, probably.
User avatar
AC81
Posts: 934
Joined: Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:58 am

Re: Karma monks

Unread post by AC81 »

It's a build that I know mreider levelled to 30 as a tiefling and by the time it got expose it just shredded everything. He also shopped around for +3 vamp kamas ... he was routinely able to regen 40 hp a round. Keep in mind his build was around before epic shops and +4 gear and even feats like deadly defence and ki step, so i imagine the build would be much more potent now. It seems very item dependent, but the items needed are in shops now, so this build should do well.

Edit: In fact, I may roll one!!! :twisted:
Draviir - Luskanite mercenary and trader of exquisite goods.
Quinath Nar - Monastic warrior from Waterdeep
User avatar
Theodore01
Recognized Donor
Posts: 2927
Joined: Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:32 pm

Re: Karma monks

Unread post by Theodore01 »

In which shop are +3 vamp kama's :shock:
User avatar
AC81
Posts: 934
Joined: Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:58 am

Re: Karma monks

Unread post by AC81 »

Theodore01 wrote:In which shop are +3 vamp kama's :shock:
No shop ... ever hopefully. When I say 'shopped around', I mean he traded hard for them. IMO, no shop should ever sell ANY vamp +3 weapons, some things should be made to be found.
Draviir - Luskanite mercenary and trader of exquisite goods.
Quinath Nar - Monastic warrior from Waterdeep
Sun Wukong
Posts: 2837
Joined: Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:05 pm

Re: Karma monks

Unread post by Sun Wukong »

Go for it. There is nothing wrong with using the Genasi to avoid most of the multiclassing experience penalty.

Thiefling would have superior stats, but experience penalty is going to be horrible even if you RCR to level 20.
" I am no longer here, the elves of the Sword Coast are just far too horrible... "
- Elminster, probably.
User avatar
Theodore01
Recognized Donor
Posts: 2927
Joined: Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:32 pm

Re: Karma monks

Unread post by Theodore01 »

Sun Wukong wrote:Go for it. There is nothing wrong with using the Genasi to avoid most of the multiclassing experience penalty.

Thiefling would have superior stats, but experience penalty is going to be horrible even if you RCR to level 20.
horrible ? - you can have much longer fun with such a character.
Sun Wukong
Posts: 2837
Joined: Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:05 pm

Re: Karma monks

Unread post by Sun Wukong »

You can avoid the experience penalty until level 18 on a tiefling, and it is going to get worse after that... What makes the multiclassing experience penalty horrible is the percentage reduction with integer rounding.
" I am no longer here, the elves of the Sword Coast are just far too horrible... "
- Elminster, probably.
Post Reply

Return to “Character Building”