1. Despite what they said. I'm 36 years old and I know for a fact the nerfs for most of the class were done out of paranoia that some kid might wtf own the server.
i wasnt paranoid about anything, its a simple matter of trying to get a class that was banned for being OP, and had a lot of hate against it, reimplemented
I for one am quite happy with Dragon Disciple's new version on the server. Mine is hardly a power to be reckoned with, but it is fun and flavourful.
which was the intention
And I will never get tired of saying it does not follow lore or dnd rules. This PrC version is not even remotely close to what was intended, but I respect the staff's decision since this is THEIR server
it follows exactly actually, with the only changes of the nerfed stats and instead of spells per day there is actual caster level progression which makes it way better as a caster prc instead of a fighter prc with minor not gonna get used casting ability
literally the only two differences, anything else is a mechanical limitation that was either not possible or not approved, like blind fight to replace blind sense and the wings which was not approved
ARHicks00 wrote:Please don't tell what ypu consider a lie and what is truth. That's a matter of opinion, sir. As I said DND is a game where you can however you want within the rules and no one else can dictate how you play. Nothing contradicting about the combination either as I (and others) gave examples hoe those combos can exist
neither of them were lying and as m3ntalist said the harsh restrictions were done to get it moving to be reimplemented which he was probably quoting from me in the thread given i am the one who remade dragon disciple
PM was the only mechanical restriction, DW and DS didnt make sense to combine with DD but rather have to deal with people figuring out if it would be an issue i simply said no
if there are no balance issues with it then it could be lifted, tho again doesnt make much sense even if it isnt restricted lore wise, its odd rp wise
At best you end up with either a (much) worse caster or a lower CL gish. Dragon Disciple CAN be used to make an EDM Sorc Gish, sure....but with low BAB and 7/10 caster progression it is simply not as good as what was possible before Dragon Disciple was implemented.
And this matters why?
it matters because it means DD wasnt implemented to be all powerful, but as something with rp flavor
if you dont like DD then you can make better combinations, but if you want to rp a DD then you can
My whole point was we (as in all of us) are too focused on stopping power gaming instead of enjoying the game. Yes, Dragon Disciple is a PrC used for Powergaming as I would be lying if I said other wise, but why does it matter when most if the classes in this game aren't balanced? I was also pointing put that limiting classes or nerfing only servers to limited the roleplaying. Dragon Disciple is a PrC for both the bard and sorcerer, yet it is limited to one class. I personally think both the nerf and class limitation served no real purpose nor improved roleplay.
i enjoy DD quite a lot actually, i usually always play a 20 sorc 10 DD, on this server tho since it was banned my main had to go PM but still rp'd as draconic blood but was just unable to tap into it
what i didnt really enjoy was that it was finally reimplemented long after she became a lich and a NPC... given that it took like 9 yrs for DD to be added back
and yes, bards were not left out... but were in fact harmed during the making of the film... because it was fun
