Spell / Scroll / Feat Bugs

[Steve]

It seems to be, but I can't be 100% sure, that the Feat Ability Focus: Invocations is only applying to Eldritch Blast/Spear casts BUT NOT applying when using Hideous Blow.

The BGTSCC Wiki doesn't state that it is a Feat for only Blasts, so I'm wondering if this is just a Coding oversight? Can someone please take a look to see that this Ability Focus is applying to Hideous Blow, and if not, please make it so? And if it shouldn't, I guess that should be updated to the Wiki.

Cheers.

[Nemni]

It seems to be, but I can't be 100% sure, that the Feat Ability Focus: Invocations is only applying to Eldritch Blast/Spear casts BUT NOT applying when using Hideous Blow.

The BGTSCC Wiki doesn't state that it is a Feat for only Blasts, so I'm wondering if this is just a Coding oversight? Can someone please take a look to see that this Ability Focus is applying to Hideous Blow, and if not, please make it so? And if it shouldn't, I guess that should be updated to the Wiki.

Cheers.

Ability focus always just gave bonus DC for spell-like ability invocations, not for the blasts. The description could definitely be improved!

[Steve]

Ha! So which Invocations are NOT Spell-like?!?

[Theodore01]

We should add "ability focus eldritch blast" as kaedrin did.

[Nemni]

Ha! So which Invocations are NOT Spell-like?!?

The feat should work for all invocations with DCs that aren't used together with a blast. Like Wall of Perilous Flame or Painful Slumber. That's not complicated is it?

[Steve]

That's not complicated is it?

It's complicated in that it's incorrect! Eldritch Blasts ARE Invocations.

To quote from D&D Tools on Warlocks:

Invocations: A warlock does not prepare or cast spells as other wielders of arcane magic do. Instead, he possesses a repertoire of attacks, defenses, and abilities known as invocations that require him to focus the wild energy that suffuses his soul. A warlock can use any invocation he knows at will, with the following qualifications:
A warlock's invocations are spell-like abilities; using an invocation is therefore a standard action that provokes attacks of opportunity. An invocation can be disrupted, just as a spell can be ruined during casting. A warlock is entitled to a Concentration check to successfully use an invocation if he is hit by an attack while invoking, just as a spellcaster would be. A warlock can choose to use an invocation defensively, by making a successful Concentration check, to avoid provoking attacks of opportunity. A warlock's invocations are subject to spell resistance unless an invocation's description specifically states otherwise. A warlock's caster level with his invocations is equal to his warlock level.
The save DC for an invocation (if it allows a save) is 10 + equivalent spell level + the warlock's Charisma modifier. Since spell-like abilities are not actually spells, a warlock cannot benefit from the Spell Focus feat. He can, however, benefit from the Ability Focus feat (see page 303 of the Monster Manual), as well as from feats that emulate metamagic effects for spell-like abilities, such as Quicken Spell-Like Ability and Empower Spell-Like Ability (see pages 303 and 304 of the Monster Manual).
The four grades of invocations, in order of their relative power, are least, lesser, greater, and dark. A warlock begins with knowledge of one invocation, which must be of the lowest grade (least). As a warlock gains levels, he learns new invocations, as summarized on Table 1—1 and described below. A list of available invocations can be found following this class description, and a complete description of each invocation can be found in Chapter 4 of this book.
At any level when a warlock learns a new invocation, he can also replace an invocation he already knows with another invocation of the same or a lower grade. At 6th level, a warlock can replace a least invocation he knows with a different least invocation (in addition to learning a new invocation, which could be either least or lesser). At 11th level, a warlock can replace a least or lesser invocation he knows with another invocation of the same or a lower grade (in addition to learning a new invocation, which could be least, lesser, or greater). At 16th level, a warlock can replace a least, lesser, or greater invocation he knows with another invocation of the same or a lower grade (in addition to learning a new invocation, which could be least, lesser, greater, or dark).
Finally, unlike other spell-like abilities, invocations are subject to arcane spell failure chance as described under Weapon and Armor Proficiency above. Warlocks can qualify for some prestige classes usually intended for spellcasters; see Warlocks and Prestige Classes, page 18, for details.

[Okan]

If we are taking dndtools as a reference, the eldritch blast is not an invocation. They are both different features of the warlock class. They are both spell-like abilities though. But I really wouldn't advocate for a 3.5 approach to that because in that ruleset you'd need to get Ability Focus for each spell like ability separately, meaning multiple feats for each invocation.

[Steve]

If we are taking dndtools as a reference, the eldritch blast is not an invocation. They are both different features of the warlock class. They are both spell-like abilities though. But I really wouldn't advocate for a 3.5 approach to that because in that ruleset you'd need to get Ability Focus for each spell like ability separately, meaning multiple feats for each invocation.

Hmmm...difficult. If Eldritch Blast itself isn't an invocation, but Eldritch Spear, Hideous Blow and Noxious Blast are, right? i mean, you pick them as Invocations, based on the Four Grades.

Of course, this issue maybe breaks down because of the Engine mechanics involved. But essentially, Ability Focus: Invocations is about adding +2 DC to Invocations that require a Save. Noxious Blast requires a Save. Noxious Blast can be used with Eldritch Spear AND Hideous Blow. By this logic, shouldn't the Focus feat apply to ALL invocations with Saves?

[K'yon Oblodra]

Control Undead

The spell control unread does not work on vampires summoned by other characters through create greater undead.

In this case we were on hostile to each other and the response from the system was along the lines of this creature is immune to mind affecting spells and abilities.

Now I am not sure if that is just the case for summons from other players or if it would also not work on monster summons.

I was just confused by the wording I guess, since all undead should be immune to mind affecting spells and abilities but "Comtrol Undead" should still work.

I hope that was not too much mumbling .

Cheers K'yon

[Snarfy]

Blinding Strike is missing from the list of feats to choose at level up... and yes, I meet the requirements that are on listed the wiki.

** Edit ** I figured it out, it's only selectable on a rogue level.

[CookieTime]

Planar Binding/Greater Planar Binding and Contingent Summoning with a Wizard/Thaumaturge

Wizard can learn spells from high levels whenever they want, even when they can't cast spells of that level yet. In this particular case they can learn, (but not normally use), Planar Binding/Greater Planar Binding before they can cast level 6/8 spells respectively.

Contingent Summoning allows a character to use their, "highest known summoning spell", not the highest known spell that the character is capable of using.

This situation means that a level 9 character (5 Wizard/ 4 Thaumaturge), using Contingent Summoning will use Greater Planar Binding, a spell you normally need to be at least level 15 to use. With 1 more level of Thaumaturge, a level 10 character can already have a Greater Planar Binding with unlimited duration.

Not sure if this is intentional or just a happy accident for us summoner types but thought I should mention it.

[K'yon Oblodra]

Apparently it is known to be like that... I only found out much later but yea the ability to do that is pretty crazy early on XD.

[gotesu]

Hi!

Critical hit immunity from Iron body spell seems to not be working



Thank you

[K'yon Oblodra]

Used both mass bear's strength and mass endurance and nether seemed to have any effects on neither the target nor the group members around him.

[DaloLorn]

Used both mass bear's strength and mass endurance and nether seemed to have any effects on neither the target nor the group members around him.

K'yon's an archmage, right? Did you have Mastery of Shaping on?

It's a known thing - not that I understand why it happens - that wards will also fail to affect friendly targets (except yourself, and maybe your pets) when Mastery of Shaping is enabled. Not that this hasn't still allowed a few Fireballs and Rainbow Blasts to sidestep Vilmar's alleged control of his magic...